I defy you non diabetics to take insulin

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03-09-2006, 04:07 PM

Dr. Wayne Simon Dr. Wayne Simon is offline

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I defy you non diabetics to take insulin

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"Dr. Wayne Simon" wrote:

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"John Walsh" <j1walsh@lava.net> wrote in message news:440FD691.3B9962B2@lava.net...

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"Dr. Wayne Simon" wrote:>> Bonds is accused of taking the anabolic pancreatic endocrine hormone> insulin. Insulin taken in non-diabetics is potentially more damaging> than> anabolic steroids. In a non-diabetic, even after a heavy calorie> intake,> insulin can induce hypoglycemia. Hypoglycemia and coma. Coma and> even> death. Insulin also drives potassium and phosphorus into the cell,> and> out> of the extracellular and vascular space. It can cause acute> hypokalemia,> (decreased serum potassium) and hypophosphatemia. (both of witch are> dangerous, can cause acute cardiac arrhythmias, and death) Is Bonds> a> diabetic or not? If he is than insulin is appropriate? If he is not,> than> non-medically supervised use of insulin is extremely dangerous.> Insulin> induced weight gain, is not only gain in muscle tissue, but also gain> in> fat> tissue. However, if Barry is innoncent, or only guilty of> unknowingly> taking the clear and the cream thinking they were something else, then> he> should have a massive law suit against these guys for slander, libel.> One> other part of the story which I find hard to believe, is that Barry> was> jealous of McGuire and Sosa. Seems to me that is very unlikely and> very> un-Barry. Again I do not know if Barry took steroids or not, but the> article and the onslaught of the press to attack this guy does seem to> be> a> bit of a modern day lynching. Accusations, and circumstantial> evidence> may> be enough for most sports writers, and non-giants fans, but so not see> that> as positive proof. If baseball has positive tests from Barry, they> need> to> come out with it now. If he has tested negative consistently, they> need> to> come out with that now. Now more than before, I hope Barry takes> the> homerun record and leads his team to a world series victory. I hope> these> attacks give him more resolve. We also use insulin to drive the potassium back into cells when there's a sudden and near fatal rise in potassium levels. Yes usually it is given as an Insulin, and dextrose 50% cocktail. So as to drive clinically dangerous hyperkalemia into the cells. The Dextrose 50% is important in these cases. Initial treatment for severe, arrhythmia producing hyperkalemia is 1 gram of calcium gluconate I.V. to decrease the cardiac irritability produced by the hyperkalemia

This more related to on-pump bypasses. Anesthesia usually resolves the problem quickly.

DID any signs of hyperkalemia appear during or after Bonds' surgery? That
stuff is supposed to be by law, totally confidential.

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03-09-2006, 05:56 PM

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My point is...in what sense is the exposing of an obvious cheat and liar remotely analogous to a "lynching?" This word was obviously chosen with malice of forethought to dredge up images of an American black man having a rope hung around his neck and having the life choked out of him. Whatever the motives of the embittered souls out there who are hounding poor Barry Bonds, it's a disgrace to hint that there's any "modern day equivalence" of a lynching being foisted upon him. Do you have any evidence, circumstantial even, that Bonds's primary attackers are racists??? Hell, Bonds himself has proudly revealed thoughts that would brand any caucasian who uttered similar remarks a racist in our day and age. You think he's most eager to pass Babe Ruth because he likes white people or something? So, let's hear the evidence that Bonds's arch-enemies are all racists.

Jeez, talk about reaching. What's the difference between saying
"lynching" and saying, say, "burning in effigy"? Neither is meant
literally, so why's it got to be a race thing?

Just so you know, too, lynching victims in this country have not
exclusively been black people.

Gregg

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03-12-2006, 12:12 AM

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I defy you non diabetics to take insulin

Gregg Pearlman wrote:

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Jeez, talk about reaching. What's the difference between saying "lynching" and saying, say, "burning in effigy"? Neither is meant literally, so why's it got to be a race thing?

Barry Bonds + lynching is enough to make any sentence inflammatory.
What, you think
when your average schmoe thinks about black men being lynched that they
conjure up images of negro cattle rustlers who got their just desserts?
Nah, I don't think so. That sort of language in the Bonds context
strives to achieve other ends, which would be to portray in a highly
exaggerated manner Barry Bonds as the victim.

W

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Just so you know, too, lynching victims in this country have not exclusively been black people.

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03-12-2006, 01:13 AM

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I hate to disagree. Bonds is intimately familiar with racism. He
single handedly was able to determine that the entire city of Boston is
racist. Furthermore, he has a little first hand knowledge of
practicing it. When he leaves the game, I'm sure he'll be heading the
next administration's Council for Racial Awareness.

For Bonds supporters, I realize that there is no audio or video
evidence of the occurence. Ron Kittle is probably just another lying
racist out to bring down Bonds because he's not as good as Bonds, and
in general can be described as "A Hater".

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From Ron Kittle's book, Ron Kittle's Tales from the White Sox Dugout:

The setting was the visitors' clubhouse at the Chicago Cubs'
Wrigley Field home in 1993, when Bonds' San Francisco Giants had come
to town. Kittle, by then retired from the game, had asked Bonds to sign
two jerseys he'd worn in games, so that Kittle could auction them for
Indiana Sports Charities, his charity helping kids with cancer.

I paid about $110 of my own money for them, so they could be auctioned
off at the golf outing. I did that all the time for stars like Mark
McGwire, Sammy Sosa, Derek Jeter and Roger Clemens. When I tell them
how their autographs help the cause, every player gladly signs - with
one exception.
I walked up to Bonds at his locker in the Wrigley Field visitors'
clubhouse, introduced myself and said, "Barry, if you sign these,
they'll bring in a lot of money for kids who need help.

Bonds stood up, looked me in the eye and said, "I don't sign for white
people." If lightning hits me today, I will swear those were his exact
words. Matt Williams and other Giants were in the room and they heard
what Bonds said.

I stood there for a minute, and the veins in my neck were popping. I've
only been that mad a few times in my life. I was going to beat the
(heck) out of him, really kick his (butt), but Williams saw what was
happening, so he came over and got between us. Matt said, "Ron, that's
just the way he is."

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01-08-2007, 09:58 AM

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