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Old 07-14-2006, 10:59 PM
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"Marcus Kwan" <mnospamkwan1@gte.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 20:12:09 GMT, "*mavs*" <gomavs@gomavz.com> wrote: And they have proven that they are the number one threat to win a championship exactly when?


I think they are going to be the threat this year. I think they are the
number one team in the west. I don't want it though. Trust me when I say I
would rather it be the Mavs first, Spurs second.. etc...


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Old 07-14-2006, 11:29 PM
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On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 20:35:39 GMT, "*mavs*" <gomavs@gomavz.com> wrote:Teams are going to need to be more versatile against Phoenix... why?
Because Stoudamire is coming back and they are in no way built as a traditional team.


Lets see how good he is coming back from injury,

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Old 07-15-2006, 12:10 AM
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"Marcus Kwan" <mnospamkwan1@gte.net> wrote in message
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"Marcus Kwan" <mnospamkwan1@gte.net> wrote in messagenews:rcrfb2h0mtm0bcgq8i4kutotf97dnq78ii@4ax .com...
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On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 20:35:39 GMT, "*mavs*" <gomavs@gomavz.com> wrote:>Teams are going to need to be more versatile against Phoenix...> why?
Because Stoudamire is coming back and they are in no way built as atraditional team.
And they have proven that they are the number one threat to win a championship exactly when?


Champions for the future are usually based on the past. No one would have
predicted the Rams or the Pats (first super bowl). What you look for is
potential and a trend. Hence the '03 Lakers and the '06 Spurs were bad bets
as their window had come and gone.


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Old 07-15-2006, 06:21 AM
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John wrote:
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"Marcus Kwan" <mnospamkwan1@gte.net> wrote in message news:6b6gb29phim4vvkuvmfhon73v0ccs2b35d@4ax.com...
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On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 20:12:09 GMT, "*mavs*" <gomavs@gomavz.com> wrote:
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"Marcus Kwan" <mnospamkwan1@gte.net> wrote in message news:rcrfb2h0mtm0bcgq8i4kutotf97dnq78ii@4ax.com... > On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 20:35:39 GMT, "*mavs*" <gomavs@gomavz.com> wrote:>> Teams are going to need to be more versatile against Phoenix...>>> why? Because Stoudamire is coming back and they are in no way built as a traditional team.
And they have proven that they are the number one threat to win a championship exactly when?
Champions for the future are usually based on the past. No one would have predicted the Rams or the Pats (first super bowl). What you look for is potential and a trend. Hence the '03 Lakers and the '06 Spurs were bad bets as their window had come and gone.


spurs were lucky to win 62 games, even luckier to win 63.

dave

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Old 07-15-2006, 06:43 AM
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Champions for the future are usually based on the past. No one would have predicted the Rams or the Pats (first super bowl). What you look for is potential and a trend. Hence the '03 Lakers and the '06 Spurs were bad bets as their window had come and gone.



I have got to disagree that the 06 Spurs were bad bets... This team isnt too
old. Even if some of their game is figured out they are still completely
dominant. The only thing I saw is that the Spurs didnt have that want it
look and you can bet your ass they are going to fix that. The Spurs are
still a very real threat.


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Old 07-15-2006, 12:59 PM
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I have got to disagree that the 06 Spurs were bad bets... This team isnt

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old. Even if some of their game is figured out they are still completely dominant. The only thing I saw is that the Spurs didnt have that want it look and you can bet your ass they are going to fix that. The Spurs are still a very real threat.



Stick a fork in the Spurs. Duncan has that solid but not spectacular cause
he is old look, Ginobli can be spectacular but inconsistent as is Parker.
Horry is too old and they don't have as much depth. The Spurs look like the
'91 Pistons who had been there, but were on their way down.



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Old 07-17-2006, 01:33 PM
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On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 18:10:40 -0600, "John" <John@earthlink.com> wrote:
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"Marcus Kwan" <mnospamkwan1@gte.net> wrote in messagenews:6b6gb29phim4vvkuvmfhon73v0ccs2b35d@4ax .com...
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On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 20:12:09 GMT, "*mavs*" <gomavs@gomavz.com> wrote:
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"Marcus Kwan" <mnospamkwan1@gte.net> wrote in messagenews:rcrfb2h0mtm0bcgq8i4kutotf97dnq78ii@4ax .com...> On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 20:35:39 GMT, "*mavs*" <gomavs@gomavz.com> wrote:>>Teams are going to need to be more versatile against Phoenix...>>> why?Because Stoudamire is coming back and they are in no way built as atraditional team.
And they have proven that they are the number one threat to win a championship exactly when?
Champions for the future are usually based on the past. No one would havepredicted the Rams or the Pats (first super bowl). What you look for ispotential and a trend. Hence the '03 Lakers and the '06 Spurs were bad betsas their window had come and gone.


OK. So what exactly in the Suns past playoff performances would you
say suggests that they are the team to beat? To be fair, they could
have a breakthrough like the Mavs almost had this year, but nothing
suggests it. They aren't changing their style, or getting more
defensive oriented. Past history suggests that it is very, very
difficult for a team that only plays offense to win in the playoffs.

I don't know where you are coming from with regards to the '06 Spurs.
They were probably the second or third best team in the league (I do
think the Mavs were better, but i do think the Spurs would have beat
the Heat-stilll the champs are, by definition, the number one team in
the league). The distance between them and the championship was not
that great. Their players are still in their prime, so I am not sure
how you conclude their window is closed.
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Old 07-17-2006, 01:41 PM
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On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 06:59:50 -0600, "John" <John@earthlink.com> wrote:
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"*mavs*" <gomavs@gomavz.com> wrote in messagenews:U70ug.2576$k31.1978@trnddc06...
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I have got to disagree that the 06 Spurs were bad bets... This team isnt
too
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old. Even if some of their game is figured out they are still completely dominant. The only thing I saw is that the Spurs didnt have that want it look and you can bet your ass they are going to fix that. The Spurs are still a very real threat.
Stick a fork in the Spurs. Duncan has that solid but not spectacular causehe is old look, Ginobli can be spectacular but inconsistent as is Parker.Horry is too old and they don't have as much depth. The Spurs look like the'91 Pistons who had been there, but were on their way down.


Duncan and Manu are right around 30. Not old by any means, though
they will not recover from injury as fast as they once did. Parker is
inconsistent. he is also 22 and has shown vast improvement every
season. The league is wide open right now, with the Heat vulnerable
(Shaq is 34 and is wearing down), the Mavs did not improve, the
Pistons got worse, the Suns still can't stop anyone in the playoffs.

Bottom line, there are no prohiobitive favorites for next year, and
there are a handful of team, Spurs included, with very good chances.
If you think the Spurs are done, you tell me who you think they can't
beat?


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Old 07-17-2006, 05:26 PM
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The facts remain.. if you dont have a good center then you dont have a championship..


Since the Bulls ended, that has been true. But with centers legislated out
of the game basically how much longer can that continue? Probably until
Bron-Bron gets a little more help.

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