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Old 07-25-2006, 05:56 PM
Andy Guthrie Andy Guthrie is offline
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John Porcella wrote:
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Also, I profoundly disagree with awarding three points to a win before the system was introduced...clubs would have been playing for draws more often than they do now.


Well if they were that good they wouldn't have been would they ?
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Old 07-27-2006, 11:50 AM
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"Mighty Mouse" <mm@aol.com> wrote in message
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There is only one statistic that should really be counted and that has to

be
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number of titles.


The problem with that approach is that a club could have won the first, say,
twenty titles, and then relegated out of the league altogether and not
achieved anything else.

Surely, the award must go to the one with the most points, not just in one
season, but over all of them?

I support Arsenal but still recognise that a few years
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back United won the title with several games to spare as did Liverpool in the seventies. Points after the title is won are totally irrelevant.


Not for the record books they are not!


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Old 07-27-2006, 11:52 AM
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"Andy Guthrie" <nospamndgut3@hotmail.comx> wrote in message
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John Porcella wrote:
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Also, I profoundly disagree with awarding three points to a win before

the
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system was introduced...clubs would have been playing for draws more

often
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than they do now. Well if they were that good they wouldn't have been would they ?


Yes, they would! In the days of two points for a win, the trick was to win
at home and get draws away...even they best teams adopted this approach.
However, now with three points for a win, teams play more gung-ho to try to
get away wins as well as home ones.


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Old 07-27-2006, 11:54 AM
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YOUR NOT For XPosting.........KNOBHEAD

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if I've ever seen one"
"John Porcella" <bronson69@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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"Mighty Mouse" <mm@aol.com> wrote in message news:ea5g1q$3m7$1$830fa17d@news.demon.co.uk...
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There is only one statistic that should really be counted and that has

to
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be
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number of titles.
The problem with that approach is that a club could have won the first,

say,
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twenty titles, and then relegated out of the league altogether and not achieved anything else. Surely, the award must go to the one with the most points, not just in one season, but over all of them? I support Arsenal but still recognise that a few years
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back United won the title with several games to spare as did Liverpool

in
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the seventies. Points after the title is won are totally irrelevant. Not for the record books they are not! -- MESSAGE ENDS. John Porcella



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Old 07-27-2006, 11:57 AM
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STEPHEN wrote:
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"John Porcella" <bronson69@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:UZqdnZ6pUtJSNVXZnZ2dnUVZ8tKdnZ2d@bt.com...
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"Mighty Mouse" <mm@aol.com> wrote in message news:ea5g1q$3m7$1$830fa17d@news.demon.co.uk...
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There is only one statistic that should really be counted and that has to be number of titles.
The problem with that approach is that a club could have won the first, say, twenty titles, and then relegated out of the league altogether and not achieved anything else. Surely, the award must go to the one with the most points, not just in one season, but over all of them? I support Arsenal but still recognise that a few years
Quote:
back United won the title with several games to spare as did Liverpool in the seventies. Points after the title is won are totally irrelevant.
Not for the record books they are not! -- MESSAGE ENDS. John Porcella
YOUR NOT For XPosting.........KNOBHEAD " You three are a right pair if I've ever seen one"


Go on JP - do your stuff!


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Old 07-27-2006, 08:25 PM
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cupra wrote:
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STEPHEN wrote:
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"John Porcella" <bronson69@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:UZqdnZ6pUtJSNVXZnZ2dnUVZ8tKdnZ2d@bt.com...
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"Mighty Mouse" <mm@aol.com> wrote in message news:ea5g1q$3m7$1$830fa17d@news.demon.co.uk...> There is only one statistic that should really be counted and that> has to be number of titles. The problem with that approach is that a club could have won the first, say, twenty titles, and then relegated out of the league altogether and not achieved anything else. Surely, the award must go to the one with the most points, not just in one season, but over all of them? I support Arsenal but still recognise that a few years> back United won the title with several games to spare as did> Liverpool in the seventies. Points after the title is won are> totally irrelevant. Not for the record books they are not! -- MESSAGE ENDS. John Porcella
YOUR NOT For XPosting.........KNOBHEAD " You three are a right pair if I've ever seen one"
Go on JP - do your stuff!


They are twins. Separated at birth. JP went to Eton, STEPHEN to Slough
Secondary Modern.

JP battles against bad spelling and grammar.
STEPHEN battles aginst KNOBHEADS who XPOST.

Usenet legends both.

Cheers,

Tox.
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Old 07-27-2006, 08:53 PM
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John Porcella wrote:
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"Andy Guthrie" <nospamndgut3@hotmail.comx> wrote in message news:BXsxg.33785$v02.32569@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
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John Porcella wrote:
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Also, I profoundly disagree with awarding three points to a win before
the
Quote:
system was introduced...clubs would have been playing for draws more
often
Quote:
than they do now. Well if they were that good they wouldn't have been would they ?
Yes, they would! In the days of two points for a win, the trick was to win at home and get draws away...even they best teams adopted this approach. However, now with three points for a win, teams play more gung-ho to try to get away wins as well as home ones.

How often did you see Liverpool play for draws away from home, or ManU
in their heyday, Chelsea now ? Not very often that's how.
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Old 07-27-2006, 09:03 PM
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Tox wrote:
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cupra wrote:
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STEPHEN wrote:
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"John Porcella" <bronson69@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:UZqdnZ6pUtJSNVXZnZ2dnUVZ8tKdnZ2d@bt.com...> "Mighty Mouse" <mm@aol.com> wrote in message> news:ea5g1q$3m7$1$830fa17d@news.demon.co.uk...>> There is only one statistic that should really be counted and that>> has to be number of titles.> The problem with that approach is that a club could have won the> first, say, twenty titles, and then relegated out of the league> altogether and not achieved anything else.>> Surely, the award must go to the one with the most points, not just> in one season, but over all of them?>> I support Arsenal but still recognise that a few years>> back United won the title with several games to spare as did>> Liverpool in the seventies. Points after the title is won are>> totally irrelevant.> Not for the record books they are not!>>> --> MESSAGE ENDS.> John Porcella YOUR NOT For XPosting.........KNOBHEAD " You three are a right pair if I've ever seen one"
Go on JP - do your stuff!
They are twins. Separated at birth. JP went to Eton, STEPHEN to Slough Secondary Modern. JP battles against bad spelling and grammar. STEPHEN battles aginst KNOBHEADS who XPOST. Usenet legends both. Cheers, Tox.


Cheers - made my night that! (I know, easily pleased....)


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