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Old 08-16-2006, 06:31 AM
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I know he is to be a backup to Miller but how may under 5 pts per game
players do they need.I think this is all a dumb down by the team.They know
that the vote will never go through and it would be easier moving the team
if they start to barely make the playoffs then exit early.


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Old 08-16-2006, 03:22 PM
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markao wrote:
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I know he is to be a backup to Miller but how may under 5 pts per game players do they need.I think this is all a dumb down by the team.They know that the vote will never go through and it would be easier moving the team if they start to barely make the playoffs then exit early.


havn't you noticed, its been the plan all along. Think about this.
Artests contract is not long term, and do you think he is going to stay
in a place like sacramento or bolt for NY, LAC, Miami, etc. We have the
best GM in the league but yet the moves latley smell Maloof Brothers
all over them.

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Old 08-16-2006, 10:22 PM
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get this I got on the sac bee website today and people were posting
there thoughts on the woods article. People are actually excited about
him. Why? He's a second stringer who plays behind someone that should
be a 3rd stringer on defence. I don't get some people.

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Old 08-16-2006, 11:43 PM
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runsrealfast wrote:
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markao wrote:
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I know he is to be a backup to Miller but how may under 5 pts per game players do they need.I think this is all a dumb down by the team.They know that the vote will never go through and it would be easier moving the team if they start to barely make the playoffs then exit early.
havn't you noticed, its been the plan all along. Think about this. Artests contract is not long term, and do you think he is going to stay in a place like sacramento or bolt for NY, LAC, Miami, etc. We have the best GM in the league but yet the moves latley smell Maloof Brothers all over them. john http://johntaylor.somee.com


The folks in Memphis, Chicago and SA may have issue with the Best GM
thing.

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Old 08-17-2006, 02:19 PM
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Frank Rizzo wrote:
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The folks in Memphis, Chicago and SA may have issue with the Best GM thing.



Geoff was able to pull off a young Chris Weber for an old Mitch
Richmond (I almost cried when I heard about that). It ended up turing
Sac into a legitamint team and one that gets mentioned at the water
cooler. I think it could have been the best move in the last 10 years.

You might argue that latley he hasn't done much but you have to realize
that he's not the one making some of these moves its those Maloof
brothers. They should stick to building casinos.

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Old 08-17-2006, 02:58 PM
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runsrealfast wrote:
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The folks in Memphis, Chicago and SA may have issue with the Best GM thing.
Geoff was able to pull off a young Chris Weber for an old Mitch Richmond (I almost cried when I heard about that). It ended up turing Sac into a legitamint team and one that gets mentioned at the water cooler. I think it could have been the best move in the last 10 years. You might argue that latley he hasn't done much but you have to realize that he's not the one making some of these moves its those Maloof brothers. They should stick to building casinos. John http://johntaylor.somee.com



That was a great trade, no doubt. But it's one deal. I don't know
that one deal, as good as it was, bags you the "Best GM in the league".
Geoff's had a couple questionable draft picks, which is his job as
well. Plus Bobby Jackson for Bonzi is not a great move in my book.
Peja for Artest could be another great one, but we have to wait and
see. I think personally that Bryan Colangelo and Jerry West could lay
claim to the award as well.

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Old 08-17-2006, 04:26 PM
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That was a great trade, no doubt. But it's one deal. I don't know that one deal, as good as it was, bags you the "Best GM in the league". Geoff's had a couple questionable draft picks, which is his job as well. Plus Bobby Jackson for Bonzi is not a great move in my book. Peja for Artest could be another great one, but we have to wait and see. I think personally that Bryan Colangelo and Jerry West could lay claim to the award as well. Rizzo


I'm not so hot on Jerry West. the grizzlies haven't really been a
"force" in the league. SA has done well in the FA market, so you can
make a case there and Chi has drafted well, but other than big ben(who
i think is overhyped and overpaid) the FA market hasen't been much. We
will see how they do this year but really if they were in the west they
would be struggling to make the playoffs. And as for the draft, the
last two years the kings have picked up the sleepers in the draft (two
great moves). We'll see how they end up in the long run.

The biggest critism I would have of Geoff would be that he lets the
Maloofs do his job, but I guess to get paid so someone else can do work
and you just claim it wouldn't be too bad.

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Old 08-18-2006, 12:49 AM
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runsrealfast wrote:
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Frank Rizzo wrote:
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That was a great trade, no doubt. But it's one deal. I don't know that one deal, as good as it was, bags you the "Best GM in the league". Geoff's had a couple questionable draft picks, which is his job as well. Plus Bobby Jackson for Bonzi is not a great move in my book. Peja for Artest could be another great one, but we have to wait and see. I think personally that Bryan Colangelo and Jerry West could lay claim to the award as well. Rizzo
I'm not so hot on Jerry West. the grizzlies haven't really been a "force" in the league. SA has done well in the FA market, so you can make a case there and Chi has drafted well, but other than big ben(who i think is overhyped and overpaid) the FA market hasen't been much. We will see how they do this year but really if they were in the west they would be struggling to make the playoffs. And as for the draft, the last two years the kings have picked up the sleepers in the draft (two great moves). We'll see how they end up in the long run. The biggest critism I would have of Geoff would be that he lets the Maloofs do his job, but I guess to get paid so someone else can do work and you just claim it wouldn't be too bad. John


Dude,

You have to factor in his Laker days. He brought in Shaq, drafted
Kobe, brought in Horry, drafted Fisher, hired Jackson out of
retirement....

When he took over Memphis they were not a playoff team, and had never
been one going back to Vancouver. I believe he traded Sharif for the
third pick and drafted Gasol. He's a great GM. I'm not a Laker fan or
a Memphis fan so I think I'm being objective.

Rizzo

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Old 08-18-2006, 12:54 AM
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runsrealfast wrote:
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Frank Rizzo wrote:
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That was a great trade, no doubt. But it's one deal. I don't know that one deal, as good as it was, bags you the "Best GM in the league". Geoff's had a couple questionable draft picks, which is his job as well. Plus Bobby Jackson for Bonzi is not a great move in my book. Peja for Artest could be another great one, but we have to wait and see. I think personally that Bryan Colangelo and Jerry West could lay claim to the award as well. Rizzo
I'm not so hot on Jerry West. the grizzlies haven't really been a "force" in the league. SA has done well in the FA market, so you can make a case there and Chi has drafted well, but other than big ben(who i think is overhyped and overpaid) the FA market hasen't been much. We will see how they do this year but really if they were in the west they would be struggling to make the playoffs. And as for the draft, the last two years the kings have picked up the sleepers in the draft (two great moves).


**** Which sleepers are those? What players are you talking about.
??? I have yet to see any impact players come out of those two drafts
that play for the Kings. Upside maybe. Potenital, sure. Steals? I
don't know. Great picks? Time will tell. *****


We'll see how they end up in the long run.
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The biggest critism I would have of Geoff would be that he lets the Maloofs do his job, but I guess to get paid so someone else can do work and you just claim it wouldn't be too bad.


Can't have it both ways. He either makes the moves or he doesn't...I
guess the bad ones are all the owners and the good ones are his, huh?
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Old 08-18-2006, 03:11 PM
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Frank Rizzo wrote:
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Can't have it both ways. He either makes the moves or he doesn't...I guess the bad ones are all the owners and the good ones are his, huh?



Just look at the history of the kings personal wise. When the Maloofs
Brothers took over the team things slowly started to go bad. They were
always a good team b/c they managed to have 5-6 good players. It was
slowly degrading to where we are today. Its to bad, but I think the
point about moving the team is correct. If they suck no one will care,
but if they are competing with Dal, SA and the suns for West Conf
champ, the NBA aint going to let them move the kings.

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