I do believe you are correct. Watch the press conference on June 30 with
Brown and Gibson. At the end they stand up together to get hats and jerseys.
It appears to me that Gibson is taller.

http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/multim...o_features.html

Keith

On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:15:16 -0600, "Keith Jones" <kejones1@cox.net>
wrote:


i would have rather seen him traded, but we're stuck with him. so why
not hope that he'll improve?

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itOn Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:50:28 -0600, "Keith Jones" <kejones1@cox.net>
wrote:


well, whadya know? the sad part is that shannon brown is even shorter
than coach brown. let's just hope he doesn't blow out a knee like phil
hubbard did and lose his hops. IMO this explains why he slid so far in
the draft.

going back to the video, ferry emphasized the defensive capabilities
of the two draft picks. this makes me reconsider the trade of A (as
opposed to Z) to get basden. maybe it wasn't just dumping guaranteed
contract money - they really want guys who can defend on the
perimeter. plus basden (at an alleged 6'5") has the size these two
draft picks don't for guarding a swingman SF/SG if lebron ever comes
out of a game. and as i mentioned before, he's a decent spot up
shooter, so if he has 3pt range, he could be a poor man's bruce bowen.

and if these backcourt guys can play really tight defense this might
result in Z getting more blocks - i expect coach brown to funnel
driving opponents towards Z, who at 7'3" can block or affect his share
of shots if the guy driving the line is more or less herded towards Z,
minimizing Z's lack of lateral motion. and Z will still score his
points at the offensive end, unlike ben wallace.



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"barry" <toisan_boy@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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jerseys.

I guess if they really are going all out for defense, this would be great if
it pans out. With Lebron, Z, Hughes, Gooden, Marshall and Brown, we will get
our offense. Turning Z into a defensive presence with shot blocking ability
improves his overall game and us as a team defensively. A defensive
frontcourt of Snow, Hughes, Basden, Newble, Brown, and Gibson (that is a
lot) sounds pretty solid. Lebron will improve (in fact, he must IMHO, if he
ever wants to become an all around player). PF with Gooden and Marshall is
not a solid defensive position for us. I like Varejao's defense. Pollard
cannot be considered a slouch. I think players like Jones, Jackson, Pavlovic
and Gooden that do not play good defense do not fit into coach Brown's long
range defensive plans. If they truly go in this direction, which I think is
a good one, these players will be gone. I guess it is no coincidence that
these are the players they have been trying to unload. I still don't
understand the Jones signing last year if this was where they were going.

Keith

On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 22:22:53 -0600, "Keith Jones" <kejones1@cox.net>
wrote:


jones wasn't their first choice - they went after earl watson - but
denver overpaid (again), then went after jaska-whatever who went to
indiana instead. they needed a backup PG.

while i like the defensive emphasis, the NBA rules are evolving to
favor offensive minded players, so we still need to have guys who can
score.




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"barry" <toisan_boy@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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surprised
with
if
get
ability
he
is
Pavlovic
long
is

IIRC, they went after Marko Jaric, who went to Minnesota then
Jasekeviceis-whatever who went to Indy.


What are the new changes?

The problem as I see it is that Jones is such a huge defensive liabilty, how
do you give him minutes. We saw him disappear against Washington in the
playoffs for that reason. You can really only spot him at certain times or
try to hide him defensively If used this way, we really overpaid for him.
Keith

On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 22:15:20 -0600, "Keith Jones" <kejones1@cox.net>
wrote:


his name was bandied about but i doubt that we were all that serious
about jaric since he was a RFA. not only would the clippers have
matched, i suspect that a fear was that the contract would have also
set the bar for all other players with comparable stats. as it turned
out, denver signing earl watson to that stupid contract was a factor
influencing ferry to give damon jones that extra &%$#* year.

amazing how much better the clippers became when jaric & simmons left.
and to think we might have had a chance to get corey maggette (or
lamar odom) instead of darius miles.


the changing of rules on defense, prohibiting hand checking, that kind
of stuff is designed to make it easier for people to drive to the
basket, etc. my take is that NBA thinks that watching a team like the
pistons is like watching two soccer teams play to a 0-0 tie. i suspect
that the fear is that the typical TV viewer isn't astute enough to
appreiciate the intricacies in getting a series of defensive stops and
shooting 30% for the game vs. 120-119 scores with lots of dunks &
layups and would get bored and switch to some other channel. there's
probably some validity to that. the typical fan is pretty stupid.

the good coaches will find a way though - i recall reading a while
back how pat riley taught a technique of face guarding as a legal way
of disrupting the guy dribbling the ball when the rule changes began
lessening the amount of allowable physical contact.



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<kejones1@cox.net>
really
away
shorter
phil
in
bowen.
share
Z,
great
will
a
if
Marshall
Pollard
think
that
going.

How will they prohibit hand checking with everyone doing it. How else
can you keep a guy in the post from scoring at will? I think this will
result
in so many personal fouls that it will be boring to watch. And you had
better have a deep bench.

I don't see how any team will be a good defensive team with this rule.
There will be no team holding anybody under 100 points. I expect 30%
of a team's points to come from free throws. Boring and slow. Now I
am thoroughly bummed. Why are we building a team around defense?

how
or
him.