jwhammett@gmail.com trolled:


We? How much of Wells salary do you think you'll be paying?


Are these your instructions, as an owner, to Ricky Riccardo?


We? Us? What position do you play? What exactly do you do that
gives you the right to refer to Jay players as "we" and "us?"

They have _earned_ the right to be part of the Jays. By sitting on
your ass and watching them on TV, if you even do that, you have not
earned a spot on the team. And since you do not have a spot on the
team, you are not part of any "we" or "us" as far as the Jays are
concerned.

cordially, as always,

rm

Wow, you have a chip on your should don't you. I refer to them as we
because I'm a big fan and I follow them even though I'm 2,000 miles
away from them.

I guarantee that if you asked any member of the Blue Jays if it is ok
if their fans refer to the Jays as "we," they would be glad to have
that. Fortunately they aren't as cranky as our friend Realto seems to
be...whatever issues you have...don't take them out on the rest of the
world.


Realto Margarino wrote:

jwhammett@gmail.com wrote:

There is no way Wells will be here. He's made it clear he doesn't want
any part of a Ricciardi run team. The problem is every GM in baseball
knows it. It's Vince Carter syndrome. You're never going to get market
value for guy guy who doesn't want to be there.

A lot depends on what happens with Gary Mathews jr. in Texas. He's had
a career year but he's a free agent. If he resigns with the Rangers the
Blue Jays are beat. If he goes somewhere else the Jays could get
something close to market value. Texas, unlike the Jays, have a good
farm system with some great young arms they might be willing to part
with.

The other long shot is a trade for Tejada. It doesn't make any sense
for Baltimore. Vernon isn't going to want to be there either. If he
thinks JP is bad wait till he deals with D'Angelo. But Balitmore is
stupid and might make the deal.

The Cat is a really underrated outfielder: plus .300, top 10 OBP. He
should command Eric Hinske, Josh Toweres money, but because JP loves
power he'll probably go somewhere else.

That leaves Rios in center, Johnson, Lind . There are some interesting
free agents; Tori Hunter doesn't look like he'll return to the Twins,
Soriano will cost too much. I like Dave Dellucci but he's a Catlanato
type - average power.

Philips hasn't proven anything. I'd be suprised to see him with the big
Jays.


Every teams has injuries. That's not the problem, it's depth. The
Yankees lost Sheffield and Matsui and didn't miss a beat. They have a
great farm system. The Jay's minor league cupboard is totally bare.
It's a big problem.

There's no way Lilly is coming back. Halladay is awsome but Burnett is
a 29 year old career .500 pitcher, sometimes brilliant sometimes brutal
but never consistent. Chacin has a lot to prove and realistically you
can't expect much more than .500.

There are some good free agents Mulder and Matusaka but they're
probably out of the Jays price range. There are lots of Lillys out
there. A guy that could be a good number 3 is Vicente Padila from
Texas.

If your starters aren't going 7 your bullpen is going to be overworked
and they can't be used situationally. The best the Jays can hope is
some of the young guys improve to respectablity.


If the Jays needf luck with the starters we'll need more luck with the
bullpen. The good news is that are a lot of free agents

Macdonald's bat isn't good enough. Rios showed how good he can be; a
geniune 5 tool player. We'll see how he handles centre field. Hill has
been a pleasant surprise, the one JP pick that has lived up to
expectations.

This is what we can realisticly expect.

Offense: Solid - Might not be as good this year without Vernon and
Catlanato but should still amoung the leagues best.

Defense: Suspect - Hill and Macdonald are going to get even better. The
corneres are consistant but without Wells, Rios has some big shoes to
fill and catcher will continue to be a problem.

Starting Pitching: Suspect - Roy is fantastic then there is a big
falloff. There's not too much cause for optimism. Hopefully JP will
sign someone who will pitch a lot of innings.

Bullpen: Hopeful - There are a lot of young guys down there who should
get better League, Downs, Jansen someone has to step up. And BJ Ryan
has been a solid addittion.

Verdict; 3rd place.

jchristow@hotmail.com trolled:


JP loves power? He only has two real power hitters on the team. He
let Delgado go with an insulting offer.

"The Cat" isn't much of a player. You almost certainly need power
in LF if you are going to have a decent team, and Cat/Johnson don't
have nearly enough.

cordially, as always,

rm

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....then asked him to decline an arbitration offer.




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"Realto Margarino" <rm@youasked.org> wrote in message

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jchristow@hotmail.com trolled:

The Cat is a really underrated outfielder: plus .300, top 10 OBP. He
should command Eric Hinske, Josh Toweres money, but because JP loves
power he'll probably go somewhere else.

JP loves power? He only has two real power hitters on the team. He let
Delgado go with an insulting offer.



...then asked him to decline an arbitration offer

while I find other speculations about the
team interesting;

I think you have forgotten that Wells has
one year left with the team and unless
they deal him(which is highly unlikely)
unless of course a pitcher of some class
could be obtained.


Rios could easily fill center field and become another devo with a
better bat.


Reed Johnston has become one of the best lead off hitters the team has
had
in a long time,and more than adequate
replacement for the often lamented
injury plagued Stewart.Left field on an
every day basis next year should be
a no brainier.

Hill is really no surprise to me,this guy
showed flashes of brilliance very early
on,and agreeably he and Macdonald will
only get better.
As long as they stop messing with his
positional play as they did early and
periodically during the season.

Pitching apart from Doc is anybodys
guess,much like Towers,Chacin may have
a falsh in the pan last year.
And the team is pretty much stuck with AJ
and his huge contract.
Either Downs or Jansen could easily fill
Lillys shoes.
Marcum may or may not be a diamond
in the rough as well.
Rosario may just been the set up guy
to compliment BJ.


As this year and next 2nd place should
not be out of range,with a good shot at
wild card next season imho.
Sat, Sep 2, 2006, 9:42pm (EDT-3) From: jchristow@hotmail.com
<sniped>

Macdonald's bat isn't good enough. Rios showed how good he can be; a
geniune 5 tool player. We'll see how he handles centre field. Hill has
been a pleasant surprise, the one JP pick that has lived up to
expectations.

This is what we can realisticly expect.
Offense: Solid - Might not be as good this year without Vernon and
Catlanato but should still amoung the leagues best.

Defense: Suspect - Hill and Macdonald are going to get even better. The
corneres are consistant but without Wells,
Rios has some big shoes to fill and catcher will continue to be a
problem.
Starting Pitching: Suspect - Roy is fantastic then there is a big
falloff. There's not too much cause for optimism.

Hopefully JP will sign someone who will pitch a lot of innings.

Bullpen: Hopeful - There are a lot of young guys down there who should
get better League, Downs, Jansen someone has to step up. And BJ Ryan has
been a solid addittion.
Verdict; 3rd place

bushdoctor48@webtv.net wrote:

No I didn't forget it. But Wells has made it clear he doesn't want to
play for Ricciardi so the only way the Jays get anything for him is if
he is dealt. Unfortunately every GM knows he want to leave.


That's a bold statement. White is defensively better than Wells. In 3
years Rios has hit well for 2 1/2 months. He's had 1 home run since mid
June.


I too think he's earned a spot but a lot of pundits think you need
power in left field. Generally big power hitters with limited d play
left field. I'm not sure it's a philosophy I adheare to.

There are a lot of mays and ifs in the paragraph without any bases. Why
are these guys suddenly going to make huge performance leaps?


It's funny our assement of the team is quite similar but our view of
the outcome is very different.

Theo Epstein is a lot brighter than our guy. He has better scouts, a
much richer farm system and a bigger bankroll. Don't expect Boston to
hover around .500 for too long. There are a lot of good teams in the
American League and I find it difficult to imagine the Jays competing
with the likes of Chicago, the Twins or Detriot.

This year the payroll was increased by 60% but the team's record has
hardly improved. The farm system is abyssmal and the manager has a
penchant for punching pitchers. They're certainly a lot closer to a
losing season than the 90 win projection they (and MH) were making.

JP Ricciardi has been here for 6 years and has 1 marginally winning
season. The team hasn't had a sniff of the post season. Why is this
going to miraclulasly change? It didn't this year. Statictically and
logically it makes no sense.