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09-06-2006, 01:58 PM

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On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 13:56:10 GMT, Pope Pompous XVIII wrote in
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That's because Socialism is not about something but rather about the destruction of something It is a negative phiolosophy. Don't expect to identify a State as socialist by what it does but rather by what it destroys. You can identify these regimes as Socialist by the degree to which they practised the wholesale destruction of the old order and with it anyone who stood in the way.

Fucking hell fire. No wonder you're getting yourself all mixed up. Your
theory about socialism is completely screwy.

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09-07-2006, 10:05 PM

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"Moog" <efcmoog@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:55:48 GMT, Pope Pompous XVIII wrote in alt.sports.soccer.everton:

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"Moog" <efcmoog@gmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns983684B643C8Fmoogmoogmoog@130.133.1.4...

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On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 11:46:03 GMT, Pope Pompous XVIII wrote in alt.sports.soccer.everton:> Socialist states everywhere have either banned religion outright or> made it impossible to practise. Examples

Fuxake Moog -- the aim of "every" Socialist regime is to eliminate religion, and specifically Catholic Christianity.

Again I ask, give an example of a socialist regime that has done that

[Having probs with Outlook Express -- really will have to get the hang
of this Gravity or something else as OE is fast becoming a pain in the
arse]

It's pretty simple Moog -- wherever you find an attack on the Church and
its
doctrines, there you will find the Socialist agenda at work. Sometimes
overtly, as in Mexico, the USSR, China, more often covertly, as in
Brazil,
the Philippines, Spain, Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Venezuela, El
Salvador.

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That's why virtually every Socialist regime in history has proclaimed itself officially atheist and that's why virtually every Socialist regime

has

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come down on religion either overtly or, as is more common, covertly. Examples?

Well OK -- Mexico then. 95% Catholic. With the help of big-brother
lodges
in the USA progessively anti-clerical and anti-ecclesiastical,
culminating
in the Constitution of 1917, with its proscriptions and impediments.
Almost
constantly attacked ever since in ways that are devious, subterfugal,
and
outright evil, as is standard practice for the Left. Needless to say
the socialist revolution there had its thirst for blood satisfied as
well. I see they're up to their old tricks again as well -- threatening
anarchy because they haven't had their way in the latest election.
Typical. We can only pray that the poor, long-suffering and beautiful
Mexican people (whom the Socialists pretend they are concerned about)
are not made to pay a price in blood yet again, just because in their
poverty (Made in the USA) and ignorance (Catholic education having been
severely restricted) they fall for the claptrap and lies that issue from
the mouths of these Satanic scum.

But Mexico of course is just one example. I'm sure you can find many
more examples of how heavily the socialists **always** come down on the
Church and its people whenever they "seize" power. Oh I'm sorry - did I
say "seize"? What I meant of course was the clever manipulation of the
electorate through lies and the media to ensure they would be
democratically elected to high office. So sorry.

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No doubt there are plenty of so-called Christian denominations who sold out and accept any old fucking belief and no doubt these regimes don't have as big a quarrel with these poxy shitester so-called religions. I see a lot of these sects in the list you hawk as

evidence

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of the Church huckstering with Socialism. I can assure you that Christianity as practised in Catholicism is resolutely opposed to Socialism and has been ever since its foundation. ????? You make-o no sense-o

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You might want to read something a little more substantial than the shite you tried to throw my way in QUOD APOSTOLICI MUNERIS, the Papal Encyclical of 1878 on Socialism, where it is described as a "deadly plague ... creeping into the very fibers of human society and leading it on to the verge of destruction". http://tinyurl.com/g896k

LOL. 1878.

LOL

Marx and Engels the greatest fucking anachronism EVER!!

You still believe that 19th century claptrap do you??

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And what relevence does something written in the pre-industrial age have to do with anything happening today?

The Catholic religion is always relevant. Socialism is relevant only in
opposition to it.

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That piece is written in a long dead tongue that bears no resemblence to anything other than the usual biblical bullshit.

I think anybody who approaches the Encyclical with the objective of
knowing
the truth will see that it's not half as irrelevant as you proclaim.
Here
in a nutshell is the history of the western world since the Protestant
Reformation. Your rabid protests against it are only further
confirmation
that the true and hidden nature of socialism have here been exposed to
your
eternal embarrassmnet.

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No doubt you will ignore the wisdom contained here and refer to your Little Yellow Book of Socialist Triumphs instead but at least I've

now

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offered you a way out of your embarrassment which you are free to

take

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at any time. There is nothing in that pile of bollocks that states anthing other then "God is great and says - "Hey preserve the status quo" (not the fcuking group you dong). Here's a sample piece. "He appointed that there should be various orders in civil society, differing indignity, rights, and power, whereby the State, like the Church, should be one body, consisting of many members, some nobler than others, but all necessary to each other and solicitous for the common good." So in essence, God created capitalism and is demanding that we continue in that vein because it is right and proper and that shit people should be shat on and come to the lord for a shoulder to cry on. I will then let them into the kingdom of heaven when they die and becuase of this, they should accept their royal shafting with good nature. Unless of course you can translate it into meaning anything else.

Dimwit. How typical of you and your limited schema to conclude that
because
socialism is anathema then the only alternatibve is capitalism.

The encyclical says nothing of the kind.

Have you ever heard of Max Weber and his study of the origins of
capitalism
in the Protestant reformation? It's a pretty simple but deadly thesis
--
the individualism which Protestantism encouraged led directly to the
capitalist expansion of 17th, 18th and 19th century England, Germany,
and
France. As Socialism is a response to capitalism, then we can trace it
too
to the ravages of the Reformation. Of course Socialism has a lot more
in
common with the Reformation than just its provenance, but suffice to say
that your limited and rudimentary grasp of economic and political
history as
mortal combat between Socialism and Capitalism can be laughably and
quite
quickly dismissed by pointing out how **both** of these fucking
useless -isms derive from the same brainless monster, viz., the
Protestant reformation.

So why should the Church endorse **either** of these products of
Protestantism??

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> Religion is anathema to the socialist> ideal at a rudimentary level. Religion and socialism share many similar ideals. It is *completely* inaccurate for you to hold such views. I'll give you an example http://www.vorsoft.com/faith/command/social.htm
yes I know. There are numerous so-called Christian religions which have sold out and gone the way of the world. it doesn't surprise me. LMFAO. And Catholicism has never sold out to the power of filthy lucre eh? Get real.

Of course it has -- ever since the Synagogue of Satan got hold of Judas
and
turned him against his own. You will always have corruption and failure
in
the Catholic Church, since there is no such thing as human and
institutional
perfectibility on earth. Something you dumbass socialists and lefties
have
yet to discover. That's if you ever discover it of course, given your
severely limited grasp of reality.

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> If people continue to cling to religion> and indeed ultimately forsake socialism and restore the old> religions to their rightful place I want to know why. Socialism in it's own right has rarely been in any power whatsoever. The only tangible example I can think of is Attlee's Labour government of 45- 51.
Well except for the national Socialists in Germany of course. And

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Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. And Communist China. But you're right, other than that i can't think of any socialist state anywhere that has ever been in power except of course good old Labour in England. There you go again. None of those where socialist states. None have consistent socialist policies. You need to rethink your definitions.

You are Moog because you are called Moog. You are an Everton fan
because
you wear the colours and follow the club. Socialists are socialists
whenever
they call themselves thus, and their failure to practise some imaginary
"ideal socialism" does not invalidate the appellation and identification
of
these people and states as Socialist.

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And if only the whole world followed suit we'd be living in a Socialist paradise today WTF?

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> Does it point to a> critical flaw in socialist thinking which undermines the whole> socialist ideal? Answer this if you dare. It actually points to a critical flaw in *you*. Your definition of socialism is inaccurate. You are confusing it with Fascism and Communism. Until you can get to grips with modern political history you are royally fucked. Until you understand that socialism is a lie and breeds lies and is bred of lies and has as its father the Father of Lies you are just as royally fucked if not more so.

Socialism has rarely been practised. I've already told you that. How do you know that it is a lie? You can't as you think Hitler, Stalin and Chairman Mao were socialist. You are bonkers.

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09-08-2006, 10:45 AM

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On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 22:05:21 GMT, Pope Pompous XVIII wrote in
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I've read the post. I disagree with virtually all of it. I don't want to
continue pointing out the flaws and telling you my views so let's just
leave it there. For the sake of Usenet.

BTW. I use XNews. It is a dedicated newsreader. If you are having
problems with OE, consider using one.

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09-08-2006, 11:05 AM

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"Moog" <efcmoog@gmail.com> wrote in message
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tried it -- gravity and xnews would be OK if there wasn't so much frigging
setting up to do with size of fonts, colour of fonts, windows layout,
scoring, blah blah blah

thanks

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09-08-2006, 11:54 AM

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Pope Pompous XVIII wrote:

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"Moog" <efcmoog@gmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns983877AFDF010moogmoogmoog@130.133.1.4...

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tried it -- gravity and xnews would be OK if there wasn't so much frigging setting up to do with size of fonts, colour of fonts, windows layout, scoring, blah blah blah thanks

Try thunderbird.

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09-08-2006, 12:59 PM

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On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 11:05:41 GMT, Pope Pompous XVIII wrote in
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tried it -- gravity and xnews would be OK if there wasn't so much frigging setting up to do with size of fonts, colour of fonts, windows layout, scoring, blah blah blah

Blimey. A matter of "minutes", eh?

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