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Old 09-23-2006, 03:30 AM
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I know some of you guys are sour on Dujuan but I think it's a great backup for GS. Rizzo


He'll have to do much better than he did here. He has no colon. I wish him
well.

Keith


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Old 09-23-2006, 03:43 AM
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I know some of you guys are sour on Dujuan but I think it's a great
backup for GS.

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Old 09-23-2006, 03:46 PM
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Keith Jones wrote:
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"Frank Rizzo" <champ91917@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1158983000.131422.124560@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
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I know some of you guys are sour on Dujuan but I think it's a great backup for GS. Rizzo
He'll have to do much better than he did here. He has no colon. I wish him well. Keith


I think Cleveland asked too much of him at a young age (given his body
type and physical limitations.) I think that f***ed his head up for a
while. GS will ask him to be the 5th guard behind Baron Davis, Jason
Richardson, Mickael Pietrus and Monta Ellis only to come in as a spot
up shooter. I think that role suits him well. Although with Nellie he
could match up against a PF sometimes, you never know....I hope he just
gets his health back and is used properly so we can see what he is.

Rizzo

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Old 09-24-2006, 12:32 AM
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"Frank Rizzo" <champ91917@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Keith Jones wrote:
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"Frank Rizzo" <champ91917@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1158983000.131422.124560@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
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I know some of you guys are sour on Dujuan but I think it's a great backup for GS. Rizzo
He'll have to do much better than he did here. He has no colon. I wish

him
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well. Keith I think Cleveland asked too much of him at a young age (given his body type and physical limitations.) I think that f***ed his head up for a while. GS will ask him to be the 5th guard behind Baron Davis, Jason Richardson, Mickael Pietrus and Monta Ellis only to come in as a spot up shooter. I think that role suits him well. Although with Nellie he could match up against a PF sometimes, you never know....I hope he just gets his health back and is used properly so we can see what he is. Rizzo


He is not going to get many minutes behind those guys. Due to health
problems and other strange factors in this young man's life, we may never
know what Wagner is capable of or maybe he never was capable. If he is
capable, it will really call into question some of the moves made to release
him and Diop, who turned out too be much better than thought.

That is why I am reluctant to see them give up on anybody. I would hate to
see Pavlovic or Jackson go somewhere else and flourish. Then again, they may
never improve and we will have wasted their trade value or otherwise.

Keith


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Old 09-26-2006, 06:51 PM
Frank Rizzo Frank Rizzo is offline
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Keith Jones wrote:
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"Frank Rizzo" <champ91917@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1159026360.887099.92920@i3g2000cwc.googlegrou ps.com...
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Keith Jones wrote:
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"Frank Rizzo" <champ91917@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1158983000.131422.124560@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com... > I know some of you guys are sour on Dujuan but I think it's a great > backup for GS. > > Rizzo > He'll have to do much better than he did here. He has no colon. I wish
him
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well. Keith I think Cleveland asked too much of him at a young age (given his body type and physical limitations.) I think that f***ed his head up for a while. GS will ask him to be the 5th guard behind Baron Davis, Jason Richardson, Mickael Pietrus and Monta Ellis only to come in as a spot up shooter. I think that role suits him well. Although with Nellie he could match up against a PF sometimes, you never know....I hope he just gets his health back and is used properly so we can see what he is. Rizzo
He is not going to get many minutes behind those guys. Due to health problems and other strange factors in this young man's life, we may never know what Wagner is capable of or maybe he never was capable. If he is capable, it will really call into question some of the moves made to release him and Diop, who turned out too be much better than thought. That is why I am reluctant to see them give up on anybody. I would hate to see Pavlovic or Jackson go somewhere else and flourish. Then again, they may never improve and we will have wasted their trade value or otherwise. Keith


Nellie may try and play 4 guards and a center sometimes. Good for
Wagner.

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Old 09-27-2006, 04:07 AM
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"Frank Rizzo" <champ91917@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Keith Jones wrote:
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"Frank Rizzo" <champ91917@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1159026360.887099.92920@i3g2000cwc.googlegrou ps.com...
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Keith Jones wrote: > "Frank Rizzo" <champ91917@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1158983000.131422.124560@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com... > > I know some of you guys are sour on Dujuan but I think it's a

great
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> > backup for GS. > > > > Rizzo > > > > He'll have to do much better than he did here. He has no colon. I

wish
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him
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> well. > > Keith I think Cleveland asked too much of him at a young age (given his body type and physical limitations.) I think that f***ed his head up for a while. GS will ask him to be the 5th guard behind Baron Davis, Jason Richardson, Mickael Pietrus and Monta Ellis only to come in as a spot up shooter. I think that role suits him well. Although with Nellie

he
Quote:
could match up against a PF sometimes, you never know....I hope he

just
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gets his health back and is used properly so we can see what he is. Rizzo He is not going to get many minutes behind those guys. Due to health problems and other strange factors in this young man's life, we may

never
Quote:
know what Wagner is capable of or maybe he never was capable. If he is capable, it will really call into question some of the moves made to

release
Quote:
him and Diop, who turned out too be much better than thought. That is why I am reluctant to see them give up on anybody. I would hate

to
Quote:
see Pavlovic or Jackson go somewhere else and flourish. Then again, they

may
Quote:
never improve and we will have wasted their trade value or otherwise. Keith Nellie may try and play 4 guards and a center sometimes. Good for Wagner.


Nellie has done many unconventional things over the years, but he has never
won a championship and has been hired and fired many times. He was a great
assistant coach with Dallas last year.

Keith


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Old 09-27-2006, 05:25 AM
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"Keith Jones" <kejones1@cox.net> wrote in message
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"Frank Rizzo" <champ91917@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1159296712.797925.161070@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
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Keith Jones wrote:
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"Frank Rizzo" <champ91917@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1159026360.887099.92920@i3g2000cwc.googlegrou ps.com... > > Keith Jones wrote: > > "Frank Rizzo" <champ91917@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:1158983000.131422.124560@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com... > > > I know some of you guys are sour on Dujuan but I think it's a
great
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> > > backup for GS. > > > > > > Rizzo > > > > > > > He'll have to do much better than he did here. He has no colon. I
wish
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him > > well. > > > > Keith > > I think Cleveland asked too much of him at a young age (given his

body
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> type and physical limitations.) I think that f***ed his head up for

a
Quote:
> while. GS will ask him to be the 5th guard behind Baron Davis,

Jason
Quote:
> Richardson, Mickael Pietrus and Monta Ellis only to come in as a

spot
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> up shooter. I think that role suits him well. Although with Nellie he
Quote:
> could match up against a PF sometimes, you never know....I hope he
just
Quote:
> gets his health back and is used properly so we can see what he is. > > Rizzo > He is not going to get many minutes behind those guys. Due to health problems and other strange factors in this young man's life, we may
never
Quote:
know what Wagner is capable of or maybe he never was capable. If he is capable, it will really call into question some of the moves made to
release
Quote:
him and Diop, who turned out too be much better than thought. That is why I am reluctant to see them give up on anybody. I would

hate
Quote:
to
Quote:
see Pavlovic or Jackson go somewhere else and flourish. Then again,

they
Quote:
may
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never improve and we will have wasted their trade value or otherwise. Keith Nellie may try and play 4 guards and a center sometimes. Good for Wagner.
Nellie has done many unconventional things over the years, but he has

never
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won a championship and has been hired and fired many times. He was a great assistant coach with Dallas last year. Keith


Oops, that was Nellie's son in Dallas, Donnie.


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Old 09-27-2006, 03:54 PM
Frank Rizzo Frank Rizzo is offline
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Default Wagner signs with Warriors

Keith Jones wrote:
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"Frank Rizzo" <champ91917@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1159296712.797925.161070@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
Quote:
Keith Jones wrote:
Quote:
"Frank Rizzo" <champ91917@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1159026360.887099.92920@i3g2000cwc.googlegrou ps.com... > > Keith Jones wrote: > > "Frank Rizzo" <champ91917@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:1158983000.131422.124560@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com... > > > I know some of you guys are sour on Dujuan but I think it's a
great
Quote:
> > > backup for GS. > > > > > > Rizzo > > > > > > > He'll have to do much better than he did here. He has no colon. I
wish
Quote:
him > > well. > > > > Keith > > I think Cleveland asked too much of him at a young age (given his body > type and physical limitations.) I think that f***ed his head up for a > while. GS will ask him to be the 5th guard behind Baron Davis, Jason > Richardson, Mickael Pietrus and Monta Ellis only to come in as a spot > up shooter. I think that role suits him well. Although with Nellie
he
Quote:
> could match up against a PF sometimes, you never know....I hope he
just
Quote:
> gets his health back and is used properly so we can see what he is. > > Rizzo > He is not going to get many minutes behind those guys. Due to health problems and other strange factors in this young man's life, we may
never
Quote:
know what Wagner is capable of or maybe he never was capable. If he is capable, it will really call into question some of the moves made to
release
Quote:
him and Diop, who turned out too be much better than thought. That is why I am reluctant to see them give up on anybody. I would hate
to
Quote:
see Pavlovic or Jackson go somewhere else and flourish. Then again, they
may
Quote:
never improve and we will have wasted their trade value or otherwise. Keith Nellie may try and play 4 guards and a center sometimes. Good for Wagner.
Nellie has done many unconventional things over the years, but he has never won a championship and has been hired and fired many times. He was a great assistant coach with Dallas last year. Keith


He's great at getting a 30 win team to 50 wins. He's been coach of the
year 3 times. He may not have won a championship, but that doesn't
make him a bad coach. His teams never had the talent. They had said
Riley had lost it (in New York and Miami )before last year. Make no
mistake, Nellie is a great coach at getting the most out of what he
has.

Rizzo

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