"barry" <toisan_boy@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Calling someone ignorant Barry, who was waaay more on target
with where the Tribe would be this year than you were is ignorant
in and of itself. All of your Shapiro and Dolan apologies ring even hollower
now than they did last winter.

Wait till next year, though, right ?

It's all about money to these multi-millioanaires
like my golf game is all about money to me.
It's my hobby....It's their hobby.

For all this boo-hoo about this is a business, expenses,
and - wait while I dry my eyes, escalating player salaries,
eight teams are in the post season. As with every other year
of the Dolan/Shapiro reign, the Tribe is not.

If Dolan took $501 to a $500 per hand blackjack table, he should go
somewhere else.

And bad mouth Steinbrenner all you want, and, believe me I hate the Yankees.
But - he wants to win. He does what he needs to try to achieve that goal.
And he doesn't tolerate losing. And don't give me any more poor Dolan and
poor Cleveland's market share. Dolan's got more money than the pope, and
he's content fielding a losing team.

"barry" <toisan_boy@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Boston certainly got the best of trading with the Indians this year.

On Sat, 7 Oct 2006 08:32:53 -0400, "jpmorgoil" <fabien@toast.net>
wrote:

the way i see it, we swapped suspect relievers, (our mgmt never said
so out loud, but wedge no longer had confidence in riske) and the jury
is still out on marte - but given what ahppened with phillips i doubt
we'll proclaim him our everyday 3B even if mgmt secretly believes that
he'll be fine, and we gave away a spare CF who wasn't as good as our
regular CF which gives us a chance to fill that defensive spot with a
bonafide power hitter, not to mention our 3B of the future,
with boston theoretically benefitng more in the short run. and let's
not forget plus whoever else they gave up to atlanta just to get marte
to be able to get crisp.

and they got:

- someone in crisp who helped lead the red sox to 10th place in runs
and 16th in overall batting average by getting demoted from the
leadoff spot and whose stats were inferior to the guy we got to take
his place who played more games, got more hits (including extra base
hits) , a higher BA, scored more runs and got more walks?

- someone in riske who pitched a grand total of 8 games spanning 9
innings this season?





"i can spell. i just can't type."

"barry" <toisan_boy@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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And as we all saw, the owner and GM did nothing to improve a 93 win
2005 team, replaced three decent to good pitchers with two duds (Johnson /
Mota)
and one ok #5 starter (Byrd), and left some of the best players in AAA
(Sowers / Garko).

For all the talk wrt the Crisp trade, the end result of Crisp for Michaels
amounted to
rearranging Deck Chairs on the Titanic. With Mota playing the role of
Iceberg.

The end result was another year of not making the playoffs, and listening to
ownership
and "management" talk about next year. Good thing for modern Technology
(CDs),
otherwise the vinyl record titled "Wait till Next Year" would be worn out,
requiring
poor Dolan to spend another $7.95 on a replacement.

On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 11:12:43 -0400, "Steve" <steveoneill@alltel.net>
wrote:


you can whine with the best of them, but i've NEVER seen an actual
feasible alternative out of you. if all you do is complain, you're as
much the problem as anything else.



"i can spell. i just can't type."

"barry" <toisan_boy@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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a replacement.

That's because you simply like to hear yourself talk.

I'm part of the problem ?
I watched every game, and drove 130 miles up and back three times this year
and bought tickets, concessions, and gear for myself, and a 5 and 6 year
old.

I bet Dolan would like to have more problems like me.

I've always said one thing:
Sign and keep your proven players.

I'd have never let Thome go, and I'd have kept Omar.
Probably would have kept Manny.
Never would've brought in Boone on the cheap.
I'd have kept Bartolo.
Yes, he may be worn out now, but, there's a lot of wins the Tribe let get
away.
I'd play to win every year, and don't buy into the "Wait till next year"
myths.

(Insert blurb about poor Dolan and how the road to the poor house starts
here).

Now, you probably don't count that methodology as an alternative,
because it goes against the tactics and strategies of your
heros, Mark and Larry. So, don't say I'm a problem, and have no ideas about
how to better run the team just because they don't mesh with your So. Cal.
attitude and love for Larry and Mark. I've followed this team since the
early 60s.

One thing is certain -
Nothing that Mark and Larry have done has resulted in a Playoff appearance.
That empirically proven result is fact.

"I can spell, and I can't wait till next year"

Steve