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Old 10-05-2006, 04:45 PM
JustTom JustTom is offline
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On 5 Oct 2006 09:13:15 -0700, thomas@meiwausa.com wrote:
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Wells does sound good though, but he won't be on the FA market. What dowe give up for him? Larue and some watery chili?
No, I send David Ross and a middling prospect for the one year left on Well's contract. They need a catcher (Zaughn is horrible and old), and Ross' career year plus Hopper leading International league in hitting might get it done do it. Sweeten it to Deno or Freel if you can negotiate with him for long term beforehand.
Why would Toronto make that deal? How do they replace Wells? Theywon't catch the Yankees with Denorfia or Hopper in CFand we haven'teven talked about the hole in the lineup,


I don't know that they do, but I do know that I've heard rumblings
that they were going to try to move him and I know that they likely
won't win with Greg Zaughn behind the plate either. At this point,
he's a poor hitter who can't catch. If they move him, you gotta
think they have something in the pipeline. So, give it a shot by
giving them a catcher they need and an OF as insurance against their
replacement.

A #3 hitter with power AND average who also happens to play gold glove
defense in CF would fill a lot of holes here, and would probably add
a few HRs and a boatload of AVG to Dunn if he got to hit 2nd.
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Plus, I don't trade Ross+Freel for Wells. Well, maybe I do but I thinklong and hard about it. It depends on whatever other moves can be madeto replace the depth Freel brought.


To me, Deno is interchangeable for Freel in OF and he comes for over
$2M less. He's a good defender and he's got just as much speed.
Hopefully, he's a better baserunner and more durable. Freel strikes
out a lot, maybe deno would do so less. At the moment, Freel has to
have more value in trade, but I gotta think the window is short for
the scrappy guy approaching 30 who hurts a lot of body parts every
year. I have to think Freel is going to get old baseball wise
sooner than most.


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Old 10-06-2006, 12:19 AM
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"JustTom" <tom@nomail.please> wrote in message
news:4524fc62.143460792@news3.news.adelphia.net...
| On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 22:10:14 -0400, tom dunne
| <NOSPAMdunnetg@gmail.com> wrote:
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| >thomas@meiwausa.com wrote:
| >> Kevin McClave wrote:
| >>> thomas@meiwausa.com wrote:
| >>>> Kevin McClave wrote:
| >>>>> JustTom wrote:
| >>>>>
| >>>>>> because there is still a risk that this owner is as frugal as the
last.
| >>>>> I think only if that worry is driven by paranoia. ***Everything***
| >>>>> we've seen from Castellini so far indicates he has no problem
spending
| >>>>> and word is the payroll will be icnreasing another $15 million for
next
| >>>>> season.
| >>>> Really! Where did you hear this. That would be awesome and means the
| >>>> Reds could go after Torii Hunter or ARod.
| >>> Hey, I was thinking about A-Rod in Reds red. If the yanks don't want
| >>> him...
| >>>
| >> I've been thinking about Arod too.
| >
| >He has a no-trade clause, he's not going to come to Cincinnati.
|
| Plus the reds have the guy who he supposedly had major ego clashes
| w/in Seattle.
|
| The husk of KGJ's ego strikes again.

Out of curiosity - how often has Jr's ego really been shown? Or is it just
rumor and conjecture? I often see it coming out of the mouths (fingers) of
the fan and not necessarily the media.

Of course I could be wrong. :-)


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Old 10-11-2006, 11:27 AM
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On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 00:19:36 GMT, "Chaos" <booger_snot@nostril.com>
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"JustTom" <tom@nomail.please> wrote in messagenews:4524fc62.143460792@news3.news.adelphia .net...| On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 22:10:14 -0400, tom dunne| <NOSPAMdunnetg@gmail.com> wrote:|| >thomas@meiwausa.com wrote:| >> Kevin McClave wrote:| >>> thomas@meiwausa.com wrote:| >>>> Kevin McClave wrote:| >>>>> JustTom wrote:| >>>>>| >>>>>> because there is still a risk that this owner is as frugal as thelast.| >>>>> I think only if that worry is driven by paranoia. ***Everything***| >>>>> we've seen from Castellini so far indicates he has no problemspending| >>>>> and word is the payroll will be icnreasing another $15 million fornext| >>>>> season.| >>>> Really! Where did you hear this. That would be awesome and means the| >>>> Reds could go after Torii Hunter or ARod.| >>> Hey, I was thinking about A-Rod in Reds red. If the yanks don't want| >>> him...| >>>| >> I've been thinking about Arod too.| >| >He has a no-trade clause, he's not going to come to Cincinnati.|| Plus the reds have the guy who he supposedly had major ego clashes| w/in Seattle.|| The husk of KGJ's ego strikes again.Out of curiosity - how often has Jr's ego really been shown? Or is it justrumor and conjecture? I often see it coming out of the mouths (fingers) ofthe fan and not necessarily the media.


If you read the stories this year, he has positively bristled each
and every time someone has mentioned moving from CF, and even when
asked about moving out of the 3 spot. Listen to how he answers those
questions.

Remember the week when he stopped talking to the media and made those
diving catches because he was mad at something somebody said on some
radio talk show?

It has been written that some of the perks he had when he got here
mirrored Bonds in bravado. You don't get to be the best player in
the game without a healthy dose of ego, and Jr has plenty.

One of the bummer things is that I think AD has learned some of his
ways from JR. Remember the Miley chair incident?

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