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Old 10-02-2006, 08:54 PM
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looks good on the tigers.. so hey bill what happened.... to YOUR down to earth tigers... explain it to us all will ya.... all the wins in april.......mmmmm seems the last 5 games where just as important.....
Yankees in 3



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The Tigers lack of a leadoff hitter and cleanup hitter has caught up with
them, but the pitching can shut down the Yankers at least once.





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Old 10-02-2006, 08:55 PM
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Ya I thinnk so to,the tigers proved how much depth ,they had at season end. It will be interesting to see just how good they are next season. Back with the bottom feeders in the al is my guess.



nope. they have a smarter GM than the Jays. They will spend money, but spend
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Looseing 3 strait to a team they had creamed all season and probably the only reason they made post season in the first place,speaks volumes. me> looks good on the tigers.. so hey bill what happened.... to YOUR down to earth tigers... explain it to us all will ya.... all the wins in april.......mmmmm seems the last 5 games where just as important..... bill smith> Yankees in 3



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Old 10-02-2006, 08:57 PM
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Ya I thinnk so to,the tigers proved how much depth ,they had at season end. It will be interesting to see just how good they are next season. Back with the bottom feeders in the al is my guess. Looseing 3 strait to a team they had creamed all season and probably the only reason they made post season in the first place,speaks volumes.
You know, the whole losing 5 in a row to finish 95-67 reminds me of the Jays choke job in 1987 when they lost 7 in a row to finish 96-66. Main difference is that there wasn't a wildcard back then. Having said that, the idea that the Tigers are only in the post-season because they got to beat up on weaker opposition is weak. Compare the East and the Central. The Yankees had a better record than the Twins (by one game), but after that, if you go position by position, the Central was better (4th in the Central was better than 4th in the East, etc.). By your logic, the Jays should have been able to make the playoffs because they got to beat up on the Orioles and Rays.




actually, the unbalanced schedule makes it impossible to make a fair
comparison among divisions.





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Old 10-02-2006, 09:13 PM
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ohhhhnnoooooo!! it's the usenet police!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mon, Oct 2, 2006, 2:26pm From: way96ah@hotmail.com (Wayne)

bushdoctor48@webtv.net wrote:

Ya I think so to,the tigers proved how
much depth ,they had at season end.
It will be interesting to see just how
good they are next season.

Back with the bottom feeders in the al
is my guess.

Loosing 3 strait to a team they had
creamed all season and probably the
only reason they made post season in
the first place,speaks volumes.

Wayne>
You know, the whole losing 5 in a row to finish 95-67 reminds me of the
Jays choke job in 1987 when they lost 7 in a row to finish 96-66. Main
difference is that there wasn't a wildcard back then.
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yes I remember it well,it was a gut wrenching choke job as

well,and the last
game was with the tigs,who ended up getting their clocks cleaned by the
twinks.



Having said that, the idea that the Tigers are only in the post-season
because they got to beat up on weaker opposition is weak. Compare the
East and the Central.
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take away half the wins against the

royals and the likes of the cubs etc.and
lets see how they finished though.



The Yankees had a better record than the Twins (by one game), but after
that, if you go position by position, the Central was better (4th in the
Central was better than 4th in the East, etc.). By your logic, the Jays
should have been able to make the playoffs because they got to beat up
on the Orioles and Rays.
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the problem with that logic is the

jays did not beat up on either the o's or
the rays like the tigers did the royals
they did however have the bo-sox
number and that gave them a better
finish this year

I'm certainly no Tigers fan and I don't see them getting past the
Yankees, but they're full value for their spot in the playoffs.
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nor do I,but don't agree,I see at

as a mediocre team who got lucky by
luck of the draw,and granted some
good pitching in the first half.

Wayne
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In essence I agree with your post Wayne,but I think you would have

to
agree where the tigers still in the east
they would not have fared as well.

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Old 10-02-2006, 11:25 PM
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Your response speaks volumes,thanks for
the enlightenment as usual.
Btw
***Like to make a little wager on your
profound statment about Ernie,,,,???

It's not clear who you're talking to, Bubba.
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what I am talking about,,,,chicken shit
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you would not be capable of ""explaining"" to me how to take a shit,
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Old 10-03-2006, 02:29 AM
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Bill Kawalec wrote:
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You know, the whole losing 5 in a row to finish 95-67 reminds me of the Jays choke job in 1987 when they lost 7 in a row to finish 96-66. Main difference is that there wasn't a wildcard back then. Having said that, the idea that the Tigers are only in the post-season because they got to beat up on weaker opposition is weak. Compare the East and the Central. The Yankees had a better record than the Twins (by one game), but after that, if you go position by position, the Central was better (4th in the Central was better than 4th in the East, etc.). By your logic, the Jays should have been able to make the playoffs because they got to beat up on the Orioles and Rays. actually, the unbalanced schedule makes it impossible to make a fair comparison among divisions.


I agree to a point, but when you're playing so many games within your
division, I can see how having a weak division would help a team make the
playoffs (just look at the NL). My contention is that the Tigers did not
make the playoffs because they were in a weak division, and therefore had a
weak schedule, is all.

I do understand that the interleague stuff changes things a bit, which is
probably the point that you're making.

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Old 10-03-2006, 05:02 AM
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"Wayne" <way96ah@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Bill Kawalec wrote:
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You know, the whole losing 5 in a row to finish 95-67 reminds me of the Jays choke job in 1987 when they lost 7 in a row to finish 96-66. Main difference is that there wasn't a wildcard back then. Having said that, the idea that the Tigers are only in the post-season because they got to beat up on weaker opposition is weak. Compare the East and the Central. The Yankees had a better record than the Twins (by one game), but after that, if you go position by position, the Central was better (4th in the Central was better than 4th in the East, etc.). By your logic, the Jays should have been able to make the playoffs because they got to beat up on the Orioles and Rays. actually, the unbalanced schedule makes it impossible to make a fair comparison among divisions.
I agree to a point, but when you're playing so many games within your division, I can see how having a weak division would help a team make the playoffs (just look at the NL). My contention is that the Tigers did not make the playoffs because they were in a weak division, and therefore had a weak schedule, is all. I do understand that the interleague stuff changes things a bit, which is probably the point that you're making.




not at all. You can't compare divisions at all, when one division plays in
their own 19 times each, and only 6 vs teams in another division. A group of
5 mediocre teams could wind up with records very similar to a group of 5
excellent teams.




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Old 10-05-2006, 05:17 PM
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My you do have a flare for the obvious
bill....well done

How nice of you to take time out from
your tirades on the tigger ng to keep
us so well informed over here.

I know you are under so much incredible
pressure over there to maintain your so
insightful and meaningful posts.

uh yaaaaaa

Tue, Oct 3, 2006, 1:02am From: billkawalec@yahoo.com (Bill*Kawalec)
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not at all. You can't compare divisions at all, when one division plays
in their own 19 times each, and only 6 vs teams in another division. A
group of 5 mediocre teams could wind up with records very similar to a
group of 5 excellent teams

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Old 10-05-2006, 09:00 PM
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My you do have a flare for the obvious
bill....well done

How nice of you to take time out from
your tirades on the tigger ng to keep
us so well informed over here.

I know you are under so much incredible
pressure over there to maintain your so
insightful and meaningful posts.

uh yaaaaaa

Tue, Oct 3, 2006, 1:02am From: billkawalec@yahoo.com (Bill Kawalec)
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not at all. You can't compare divisions at all, when one division plays
in their own 19 times each, and only 6 vs teams in another division. A
group of 5 mediocre teams could wind up with records very similar to a
group of 5 excellent teams


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