major league baseball payroll is overblown

09-30-2006, 02:27 PM

dwjones

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major league baseball payroll is overblown

macclatchy is simply out of his mind if he thinks that payroll is not
important as to whether the team is conpetitive or not. look for year 15 of
under .500 baseball with no end in sight.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06273/726378-63.stm

Pirates Notebook: Payroll not as important as right decisions,
McClatchy says
Saturday, September 30, 2006

By Dejan Kovacevic, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Kevin McClatchy revealed a month ago that the Pirates' 2007 player
payroll would remain "flat," in the range of $47 million. But the firm
figure, which might be made known in the coming week, still probably will
make headlines, if only because of the team's position among the lowest
spenders in Major League Baseball.

McClatchy, the managing general partner, clearly wishes it would not
receive so much attention.

"I think payroll is overblown," he said. "If you do the job you're
supposed to do with your minor-league system and get the players in place,
payroll will become less of an issue."

He cited outside examples.

"Somebody could look at the amount of money the Toronto Blue Jays
spent this offseason and say, well, that should guarantee a playoff spot.
Or, quite frankly, the Boston Red Sox. Then, you look at the flip side, and
the Florida Marlins, because they spent $15 million, should have the worst
record in baseball. Payroll is not indicative, exactly, of how successful
you're going to be."

Toronto spent $72 million, Boston $120 million, and neither is in the
postseason. Florida will finish just below .500.

"I'm sure everybody's going to get caught up in the payroll number,"
McClatchy continued. "If people think that we're up another $5 million and
that's going to make or break the organization, I'll let people believe
that.

"I believe that, if we do our jobs the right way, payroll will be less
important. And the development of the players we have, that will be more
important."

One also could point, of course, to the Pirates' increase from $35
million last season to $47 million this season that did not exactly result
in a rise in the standings.

"We took our payroll up 25 percent last year," McClatchy said. "Did we
make the best investments in that marketplace? No, and I think everybody
would agree with that. But have we continued to develop our players? Yes, we
have. Now, we have a good group here, so let's do a good job of reducing the
number of players we need to go out and get and make sure we bring in the
right ones when we do, and I think we're going to be in a good spot."

09-30-2006, 02:38 PM

Matt Davis Matt Davis is offline

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I think McClatchy should get his head out of his ass. The gas up there is
having a major effect on his thinking process. You have to spend money to
make money. Oh, you have to spend money "wisely" to make money and to put a
winner on the field. The current management team in Pittsburgh is only
interested in one thing; money in the owner's pockets. No need to spend more
money than the league gives them in revenue sharing.

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macclatchy is simply out of his mind if he thinks that payroll is not important as to whether the team is conpetitive or not. look for year 15 of under .500 baseball with no end in sight. http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06273/726378-63.stm Pirates Notebook: Payroll not as important as right decisions, McClatchy says Saturday, September 30, 2006 By Dejan Kovacevic, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette Kevin McClatchy revealed a month ago that the Pirates' 2007 player payroll would remain "flat," in the range of $47 million. But the firm figure, which might be made known in the coming week, still probably will make headlines, if only because of the team's position among the lowest spenders in Major League Baseball. McClatchy, the managing general partner, clearly wishes it would not receive so much attention. "I think payroll is overblown," he said. "If you do the job you're supposed to do with your minor-league system and get the players in place, payroll will become less of an issue." He cited outside examples. "Somebody could look at the amount of money the Toronto Blue Jays spent this offseason and say, well, that should guarantee a playoff spot. Or, quite frankly, the Boston Red Sox. Then, you look at the flip side, and the Florida Marlins, because they spent $15 million, should have the worst record in baseball. Payroll is not indicative, exactly, of how successful you're going to be." Toronto spent $72 million, Boston $120 million, and neither is in the postseason. Florida will finish just below .500. "I'm sure everybody's going to get caught up in the payroll number," McClatchy continued. "If people think that we're up another $5 million and that's going to make or break the organization, I'll let people believe that. "I believe that, if we do our jobs the right way, payroll will be less important. And the development of the players we have, that will be more important." One also could point, of course, to the Pirates' increase from $35 million last season to $47 million this season that did not exactly result in a rise in the standings. "We took our payroll up 25 percent last year," McClatchy said. "Did we make the best investments in that marketplace? No, and I think everybody would agree with that. But have we continued to develop our players? Yes, we have. Now, we have a good group here, so let's do a good job of reducing the number of players we need to go out and get and make sure we bring in the right ones when we do, and I think we're going to be in a good spot."

09-30-2006, 04:01 PM

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I think McClatchy should get his head out of his ass. The gas up there ishaving a major effect on his thinking process. You have to spend money tomake money. Oh, you have to spend money "wisely" to make money and to put awinner on the field. The current management team in Pittsburgh is onlyinterested in one thing; money in the owner's pockets. No need to spendmore money than the league gives them in revenue sharing.

But he IS right. Money is not the deciding factor. Smart decisions are
more important than spending $6 million on Jeremy Burnitz. I don't think
this management staff knows what it is doing and giving them more money is
not the answer. More money to play with is only going to result in the
signing of TWO Burnitz's this season, not one.

John

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macclatchy is simply out of his mind if he thinks that payroll is not important as to whether the team is conpetitive or not. look for year 15 of under .500 baseball with no end in sight. http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06273/726378-63.stm Pirates Notebook: Payroll not as important as right decisions, McClatchy says Saturday, September 30, 2006 By Dejan Kovacevic, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette Kevin McClatchy revealed a month ago that the Pirates' 2007 player payroll would remain "flat," in the range of $47 million. But the firm figure, which might be made known in the coming week, still probably will make headlines, if only because of the team's position among the lowest spenders in Major League Baseball. McClatchy, the managing general partner, clearly wishes it would not receive so much attention. "I think payroll is overblown," he said. "If you do the job you're supposed to do with your minor-league system and get the players in place, payroll will become less of an issue." He cited outside examples. "Somebody could look at the amount of money the Toronto Blue Jays spent this offseason and say, well, that should guarantee a playoff spot. Or, quite frankly, the Boston Red Sox. Then, you look at the flip side, and the Florida Marlins, because they spent $15 million, should have the worst record in baseball. Payroll is not indicative, exactly, of how successful you're going to be." Toronto spent $72 million, Boston $120 million, and neither is in the postseason. Florida will finish just below .500. "I'm sure everybody's going to get caught up in the payroll number," McClatchy continued. "If people think that we're up another $5 million and that's going to make or break the organization, I'll let people believe that. "I believe that, if we do our jobs the right way, payroll will be less important. And the development of the players we have, that will be more important." One also could point, of course, to the Pirates' increase from $35 million last season to $47 million this season that did not exactly result in a rise in the standings. "We took our payroll up 25 percent last year," McClatchy said. "Did we make the best investments in that marketplace? No, and I think everybody would agree with that. But have we continued to develop our players? Yes, we have. Now, we have a good group here, so let's do a good job of reducing the number of players we need to go out and get and make sure we bring in the right ones when we do, and I think we're going to be in a good spot."

09-30-2006, 04:12 PM

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I think McClatchy should get his head out of his ass. The gas up there ishaving a major effect on his thinking process. You have to spend money tomake money. Oh, you have to spend money "wisely" to make money and to puta winner on the field. The current management team in Pittsburgh is onlyinterested in one thing; money in the owner's pockets. No need to spendmore money than the league gives them in revenue sharing.

But he IS right. Money is not the deciding factor. Smart decisions are more important than spending $6 million on Jeremy Burnitz. I don't think this management staff knows what it is doing and giving them more money is not the answer. More money to play with is only going to result in the signing of TWO Burnitz's this season, not one. John

True, then we'll have a balanced bench. Each will be holding down separate
ends.

09-30-2006, 07:41 PM

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major league baseball payroll is overblown

Has PG taken over KM's mind?!!!

I for one am looking forward to next season. Of course I always say that,
but hey, I'm a masochist at heart!

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macclatchy is simply out of his mind if he thinks that payroll is not important as to whether the team is conpetitive or not. look for year 15 of under .500 baseball with no end in sight. http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06273/726378-63.stm Pirates Notebook: Payroll not as important as right decisions, McClatchy says Saturday, September 30, 2006 By Dejan Kovacevic, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette Kevin McClatchy revealed a month ago that the Pirates' 2007 player payroll would remain "flat," in the range of $47 million. But the firm figure, which might be made known in the coming week, still probably will make headlines, if only because of the team's position among the lowest spenders in Major League Baseball. McClatchy, the managing general partner, clearly wishes it would not receive so much attention. "I think payroll is overblown," he said. "If you do the job you're supposed to do with your minor-league system and get the players in place, payroll will become less of an issue." He cited outside examples. "Somebody could look at the amount of money the Toronto Blue Jays spent this offseason and say, well, that should guarantee a playoff spot. Or, quite frankly, the Boston Red Sox. Then, you look at the flip side, and the Florida Marlins, because they spent $15 million, should have the worst record in baseball. Payroll is not indicative, exactly, of how successful you're going to be." Toronto spent $72 million, Boston $120 million, and neither is in the postseason. Florida will finish just below .500. "I'm sure everybody's going to get caught up in the payroll number," McClatchy continued. "If people think that we're up another $5 million and that's going to make or break the organization, I'll let people believe that. "I believe that, if we do our jobs the right way, payroll will be less important. And the development of the players we have, that will be more important." One also could point, of course, to the Pirates' increase from $35 million last season to $47 million this season that did not exactly result in a rise in the standings. "We took our payroll up 25 percent last year," McClatchy said. "Did we make the best investments in that marketplace? No, and I think everybody would agree with that. But have we continued to develop our players? Yes, we have. Now, we have a good group here, so let's do a good job of reducing the number of players we need to go out and get and make sure we bring in the right ones when we do, and I think we're going to be in a good spot."

09-30-2006, 09:12 PM

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But he IS right. Money is not the deciding factor. Smart decisions are more important than spending $6 million on Jeremy Burnitz. I don't think this management staff knows what it is doing and giving them more money is not the answer. More money to play with is only going to result in the signing of TWO Burnitz's this season, not one.

This is the first thing the guy has said that makes any sense.

Once he gets to the point that he realizes with absolute certainty that
the decisions made (or not) are what's holding back his franchise, then
he can start to address the question of whether the people he employees
in a decision making capacity are capable of making the right ones.

I'm crossing my fingers and hoping this is not just media blather and
he's finally coming around.

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