Perfect ending to the season

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10-03-2006, 01:22 AM

tom dunne

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Lance Freezeland wrote:

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On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 18:43:25 -0400, tom dunne <NOSPAMdunnetg@gmail.com> gave us:

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I'm calling for a Twins-Padres World Series, by the way, and hoping that the Yankees don't make it out of Detroit.

Absolutely, I hope the Hefty Dome collapses under the overwhelming guilt
that is the Twins' unfair homefield advantage. But my pick was who I
think will go rather than whom I'm rooting for.

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The Yankees? Satan. That leaves me with Detroit and Oakland in the American League from whom to choose. My well known distaste for the wildcard, though, prevents me from advancing Detroit's cause. If they hadn't have had the wildcard upon which to rely, though, maybe they would have done more to beat Kansas City this past weekend, so maybe I need to revive them from elimination. Oakland? I don't have anything against them other than the fact that they employ Jay Payton and Milton Bradley, whom I detest. It's going to be hard to cheer for a team with those two jerks on it. And I don't care much for Jason Kendall, either. The Dodgers tried to intentionally lose on Sunday in an attempt to secure the wildcard. With the division tied on the last day of the season, Grady Little rested Drew, Lofton, Anderson, Furcal, Kent, Garciaparra and Martin. Why? Because the Dodgers were 0-7 this year against the Cardinals and apparently preferred to play the Mets in the first round. The Mets? Pond scum. The Padres? They're playing my Cardinals in the first round.

If I had my choice, I'd probably go with a Tigers-Padres series. I
dislike Jim Leyland, but can definitely root for a group of no-names
like this year's Detroit squad. Oakland would be an acceptable
alternative, because they've been victimized by absolutely terrible
postseason luck the last 6 years or so (and we Braves fans know all
about bad luck in October).

In the NL, I'm definitely pulling for the Padres just because they've
never won it all and I like to see everyone share the wealth. Don't
care for either the Cardinals or Dodgers, but it wouldn't kill me to see
the Mets win if Tom Glavine has a good series. Actually, a Mets over
Yankees result would be rather satisfying, with a pair of Glavine wins
and a 2-for-20 from A-Rod. I can get behind that.

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10-04-2006, 10:29 PM

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"Lance Freezeland" <freezelandlaw.nospam@consolidated.net> wrote in message
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I'm calling for a Twins-Padres World Series, by the way, and hoping thatthe Yankees don't make it out of Detroit.

It's well known here that I'm a Cardinals fan, so the fact that I'm backing them comes as no surprise. The other teams, though? I have to root against the Twins until they tear down that abomination of a "stadium". I will never forget the travesty of the 1987 World Series, and I would expect that you would have similar feelings about 1991, Tom. The Yankees? Satan. That leaves me with Detroit and Oakland in the American League from whom to choose. My well known distaste for the wildcard, though, prevents me from advancing Detroit's cause. If they hadn't have had the wildcard upon which to rely, though, maybe they would have done more to beat Kansas City this past weekend, so maybe I need to revive them from elimination. Oakland? I don't have anything against them other than the fact that they employ Jay Payton and Milton Bradley, whom I detest. It's going to be hard to cheer for a team with those two jerks on it. And I don't care much for Jason Kendall, either. The Dodgers tried to intentionally lose on Sunday in an attempt to secure the wildcard. With the division tied on the last day of the season, Grady Little rested Drew, Lofton, Anderson, Furcal, Kent, Garciaparra and Martin. Why? Because the Dodgers were 0-7 this year against the Cardinals and apparently preferred to play the Mets in the first round.

Interesting. I think the Cards would be the least feared of the teams,
though.

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10-05-2006, 12:58 PM

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On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 23:00:15 GMT, Kevin McClave
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On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 18:14:13 -0400, John Kasupski <kc2hmz@wzrd.com> wrote:

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On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 20:19:43 GMT, Kevin McClave<kmcclave@twcny.rr.com> wrote:

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This team has failed every gut check it has had before it. No reason tobelieve they would have actually won today to finish with a non-losingrecord.I don't know, it is really hard right now to feel too good about how thisall turned out this season.

Looking back at that damned west coast trip?And yeah, it would have been nice to finish at 81-81 for symbolicreasons if nothing else.That said, there's a lot more to feel good about right now than therewas last season, Kevin...or so it seems to me.Considering where this team came from in 2005, they had absolutely nobusiness being in a playoff race and playing meaningful games inSeptember to begin with. In January, if someone had told us the Redswill make it to .500 this year, coming off the debacle of 2005, Ithink most of us would have taken that as a good first step in theright direction. They missed that by one game. The 80 wins representsa seven-game improvement over last year's 73 wins, and if they areable to follow that up with another seven-game improvement next year,that would be 87 wins. Note that the Cardinals lost today and backedinto the division title with "only" 83 wins.

I really don't consider myself to be overly optimistic, nor pessimistic byrule. Right now, though, I don't feel overly positive about how thingswent since that west coast trip. I see a team that quit, whether byintention or by simply not having the horses, I don't know. I am not atall pleased at what I perceive to be the team mailing it in down thestretch.The fact that the rest of the NL sucked this year doesn't take that away.

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The new management tried to make a go of it, but realistically, theytook over too late. This season was only the beginning for them. Bythe time they took over the equipment truck was already headed down toDanny's neck o' the woods. What they started with, no way it was goodenough to win anything. They were lucky to be able to add Arroyo whenthey did - starting pitching help is generally not something teamsstart to gather during spring training. The fact that Krivsky was ableto pull Brandon Phillips out of his hat when the best O'Brien could dowas Tony Womack says a lot; and he got David Ross out of virtuallynowhere. Still, this team simply wasn't good enough yet. Hell, theyinherited pieces from, what, four different GMs?

I agree with all of that.Still, where was the urgency and the pride down the stretch? Two straight*shutouts* to end the season when they could have pulled themselves up bytheir jockstraps and gone out with a .500 record or even a winning recordfor the first time in six years? Fuck 'em.

Yes, but in the last game of the season, they had a lineup that my old
HS could give a run for their money. Two regulars and one of them
inexplicably playing 1B ... and it was the wrong one.

The thing to be troubled about is not the result on the field, but the
intimation by Narron that some of the regulars begged out of playing
the last two games.
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10-05-2006, 01:00 PM

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On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 22:29:07 GMT, "RJA" <rja@nospam.cinci.rr.com>
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"Lance Freezeland" <freezelandlaw.nospam@consolidated.net> wrote in messagenews:ag83i2h5pi5gu4pipg5eto33jf374r2as6@4ax .com...

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On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 18:43:25 -0400, tom dunne <NOSPAMdunnetg@gmail.com> gave us:

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I'm calling for a Twins-Padres World Series, by the way, and hoping thatthe Yankees don't make it out of Detroit.

Interesting. I think the Cards would be the least feared of the teams,though.

I fear Pujols more than any balloplayer on the planet, yet if they
continue to pitch to him, he's one guy who I think could almost
singlehandely win any game.

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10-05-2006, 04:00 PM

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On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 12:58:52 GMT, tom@nomail.please (JustTom) wrote:

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The thing to be troubled about is not the result on the field, but theintimation by Narron that some of the regulars begged out of playingthe last two games.<snip>

Did they? I didn't see that. That's bush league.

But isn't that the exact same type of thing I was complaining about
anyway? Quitting?

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10-05-2006, 04:14 PM

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"Kevin McClave" <kmcclaveREJECTED@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message

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On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 12:58:52 GMT, tom@nomail.please (JustTom) wrote:

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The thing to be troubled about is not the result on the field, but theintimation by Narron that some of the regulars begged out of playingthe last two games.<snip>

Did they? I didn't see that. That's bush league.

First I've heard of it.

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But isn't that the exact same type of thing I was complaining about anyway? Quitting?

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10-05-2006, 04:56 PM

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On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 12:58:52 GMT, tom@nomail.please (JustTom) wrote:

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The thing to be troubled about is not the result on the field, but theintimation by Narron that some of the regulars begged out of playingthe last two games.<snip>

Did they? I didn't see that. That's bush league.

First I've heard of it.

I heard Marty make reference to it during the last game. Marty gave kudos
to Adam Dunn. He was in a horrific stretch, and didn't ask to sit either of
the last two games.

Save a few players, I just didn't like this team very well.

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10-05-2006, 05:13 PM

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On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 12:56:08 -0400, "Bob Braun"
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"David Short" <David.no.Short@Wright.spam.Edu.please> wrote in messagenews:eg3b19$pij$1@posting.glorb.com...

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"Kevin McClave" <kmcclaveREJECTED@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message

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On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 12:58:52 GMT, tom@nomail.please (JustTom) wrote:>>The thing to be troubled about is not the result on the field, but the>intimation by Narron that some of the regulars begged out of playing>the last two games.><snip> Did they? I didn't see that. That's bush league.

First I've heard of it.

I heard Marty make reference to it during the last game. Marty gave kudosto Adam Dunn. He was in a horrific stretch, and didn't ask to sit either ofthe last two games.

I think that may've been where I heard it, or actually I think I read
online about Marty's diatribe.

I haven't been able to come up with a link yet though. Still looking.

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Save a few players, I just didn't like this team very well.

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