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Old 10-08-2006, 07:53 PM
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Ewwww. That takes all of the human drama out of the game. The umps are human beings involved in the game just as much as any fielder or batter. Sure they screw up but so do the players and coaches. The ump knows the personal side of the pitchers and hitters, the toil and emotion they go through during a game and season, maybe a curveball is a bit outside but the pitcher had been getting it over all game long and had the guts to try it again in a late inning situation and deserves a break if the hitter doesn't swing.
Completely disagree. A strike should be a strike every time, and a ball should be a ball every time. It shouldn't be open to interpretation based on a guys years in the league, rep, or whatever.


I'm all for human drama but I want it coming from players and coaches,
not the umps.

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Old 10-08-2006, 07:57 PM
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A year ago a Newsweek writer suggested it is time to reconsider instantreplay (at least for the playoffs.) He argued, "It is long past time for Bud Selig and Major League Baseball to step into the 21st century and adopt some form of instant replay-at the very least for the playoffs-to help adjudicate close calls. The addition of instant replay makes use of a tool already in place with one noble purpose in mind: to help assure that baseball, with so much emotion not to mention money invested in its results, gets the biggest calls right." In watching the last few games especially tonight's DET-NY game, where at least two calls were blatantly missed, I have to wonder if a grass roots outcry could possibly change the commissioner's mind. There was a poll some time ago where 51% were against it. I am sure the same was true of college football - but they finally acquiesced and to my knowledge very few have complained. Your thoughts?
While it may not happen...I'd like to see an electronic ump in the plate calling balls and strikes. I think assuring pitchers must throw strikes will greatly open the offense and make the game a lot more fun. Plus I'm tired of umps completely screwing a batter or a pitcher with a bad call. I'm also tired of stars having a different strike zone than rookies, both at the plate and on the mound. The only thing I hate worse than losing is losing due to an ump. I know tags are sometimes tough to call but there are at most 2 or 3 of those a game. I see questionable balls and strike calls every inning. With some screwball umps its every at bat.
I am for an instant replay rule for post season but I am totally and completely against electronic umpiring. First off, the strike zone is typically consistent for each team during the game.


Really? How many pundits think Pujols changed the zone
on Peavey with a word to the ump in game 1?

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Old 10-08-2006, 08:45 PM
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Ewwww. That takes all of the human drama out of the game. The umps are human beings involved in the game just as much as any fielder or batter. Sure they screw up but so do the players and coaches. The ump knows the personal side of the pitchers and hitters, the toil and emotion they go through during a game and season, maybe a curveball is a bit outside but the pitcher had been getting it over all game long and had the guts to try it again in a late inning situation and deserves a break if the hitter doesn't swing.
Completely disagree. A strike should be a strike every time, and a ball should be a ball every time. It shouldn't be open to interpretation based on a guys years in the league, rep, or whatever.


I'm all for human drama but I want it coming from players
and coaches,
not the umps.

ScottW

Bingo, Scott! The rules of The Game must be enforced with
consistent accuracy to ensure the fundamental fairness that
is the very integrity of any game. I'm for any technology
that improves getting calls right, beginning with an
electronic strike zone. As for delays caused by reviewing
replays, Hell, many arguments with umps over calls take up
more time than running replays several times. ("Damn, Joe,
we've run that play six times and Weaver is still arguing
with the ump!") Besides, what's a little break in the
action for a game whose very nature is leisurely?

But I'd sure miss the classic manager-ump confrontations.

-Johnny (Nobody, not even hotheaded Billy Martin, argued
with an ump with the style and passion of Earl Weaver. Who
can forget him on his hands and knees piling dirt on home
plate? Or turning the bill of his cap backwards so he could
put his nose right up against the ump's?)

P.S. My favorite rhubarb story is the one Leo Durocher told
about his fight with an umpire. He says that he and the ump
kept kicking each other in the shins until he finally
figured out that the ump was unfazed while Durocher was
getting hammered because it was the home plate ump and he
was wearing shin guards under his trousers.

P.P.S. In the old days, when caustic lime was used to mark
lines, arguing managers would kick it on the umps' shoes and
trousers to ruin their wardrobe.

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