AROD: "Im 100% committed to staying a yankee"

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10-11-2006, 03:54 PM

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theBZA wrote:

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Pepe Papon <a@mindspring.invalid> wrote in news:rl7oi2h19osd9ad76annjgoqjneksjpp6o@4ax.com:

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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 08:03:36 -0700, miguel <mjc101@gmail.com> wrote:

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theBZA wrote:>Pepe Papon wrote>>Do two playoff series constitute a career-long pattern?>I was refering to the fact that his teams have never advanced beyond>the ALCS at best.And the causal connection to Alex is . . . ?

Are you trying to suggest that correlation isn't the same ascausality?

You remind me of the tobacco company executives who testified to congress that just because there was a correlation between smoking and lung cancer didn't mean smoking caused lung cancer.

You remind me of the person who hears that people who live in trailer
parks have a higher rate of heart attacks and thinks this means that
living in a trailer causes heart attacks.

Dave.

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10-11-2006, 03:57 PM

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theBZA wrote:

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Pepe Papon wrote:

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miguel wrote:

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theBZA wrote:> Pepe Papon wrote

>> Do two playoff series constitute a career-long pattern?> I was refering to the fact that his teams have never advanced beyond> the ALCS at best. And the causal connection to Alex is . . . ? Are you trying to suggest that correlation isn't the same as causality?
You remind me of the tobacco company executives who testified to congress that just because there was a correlation between smoking and lung cancer didn't mean smoking caused lung cancer.

You should leave analogies to the professionals.

miguel, drop the analogy and put your hands on your head

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10-11-2006, 07:42 PM

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David Cronk <cronk@cRs.EMutOVk.eduE> wrote in
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theBZA wrote:

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Pepe Papon <a@mindspring.invalid> wrote in news:rl7oi2h19osd9ad76annjgoqjneksjpp6o@4ax.com:

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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 08:03:36 -0700, miguel <mjc101@gmail.com> wrote:>theBZA wrote:>>>Pepe Papon wrote>>>>Do two playoff series constitute a career-long pattern?>>>I was refering to the fact that his teams have never advanced>>beyond the ALCS at best.>>And the causal connection to Alex is . . . ?Are you trying to suggest that correlation isn't the same ascausality?

You remind me of the tobacco company executives who testified to congress that just because there was a correlation between smoking and lung cancer didn't mean smoking caused lung cancer.

You remind me of the person who hears that people who live in trailer parks have a higher rate of heart attacks and thinks this means that living in a trailer causes heart attacks.

It might.

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10-11-2006, 07:59 PM

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theBZA wrote:

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David Cronk <cronk@cRs.EMutOVk.eduE> wrote in news:452d13aa$1_4@news.utk.edu:

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theBZA wrote:

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Pepe Papon <a@mindspring.invalid> wrote innews:rl7oi2h19osd9ad76annjgoqjneksjpp6o@4ax.com: >On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 08:03:36 -0700, miguel <mjc101@gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>theBZA wrote:>>>>>>>Pepe Papon wrote>>>>>>Do two playoff series constitute a career-long pattern?>>>>>I was refering to the fact that his teams have never advanced>>>beyond the ALCS at best.>>>>And the causal connection to Alex is . . . ?>>Are you trying to suggest that correlation isn't the same as>causality?You remind me of the tobacco company executives who testified tocongress that just because there was a correlation between smokingand lung cancer didn't mean smoking caused lung cancer.

You remind me of the person who hears that people who live in trailerparks have a higher rate of heart attacks and thinks this means thatliving in a trailer causes heart attacks.

It might.

You are right, without further study you can say it might, but it
probably does not.

Dave.

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10-11-2006, 08:15 PM

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David Cronk <cronk@cRs.EMutOVk.eduE> wrote in
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theBZA wrote:

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David Cronk <cronk@cRs.EMutOVk.eduE> wrote in news:452d13aa$1_4@news.utk.edu:

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theBZA wrote:>Pepe Papon <a@mindspring.invalid> wrote in>news:rl7oi2h19osd9ad76annjgoqjneksjpp6o@4ax.com:>>>>>On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 08:03:36 -0700, miguel <mjc101@gmail.com>>>wrote:>>>>>>>>>theBZA wrote:>>>>>>>>>>Pepe Papon wrote>>>>>>>>Do two playoff series constitute a career-long pattern?>>>>>>>I was refering to the fact that his teams have never advanced>>>>beyond the ALCS at best.>>>>>>And the causal connection to Alex is . . . ?>>>>Are you trying to suggest that correlation isn't the same as>>causality?>>>You remind me of the tobacco company executives who testified to>congress that just because there was a correlation between smoking>and lung cancer didn't mean smoking caused lung cancer.>You remind me of the person who hears that people who live in trailerparks have a higher rate of heart attacks and thinks this means thatliving in a trailer causes heart attacks.

It might.

You are right, without further study you can say it might, but it probably does not.

Is it true that people who live in trailer parks have a higher rate of
heart attack?

People who live near toxic waste dumps have a higher rate of cancer. But
that's probably just a correlation. Bush says so.

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10-12-2006, 06:42 AM

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On 11 Oct 2006 12:56:47 GMT, theBZA <dewey3kNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:

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Pepe Papon <a@mindspring.invalid> wrote innews:rl7oi2h19osd9ad76annjgoqjneksjpp6o@4ax.com:

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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 08:03:36 -0700, miguel <mjc101@gmail.com> wrote:

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theBZA wrote:> Pepe Papon wrote>> Do two playoff series constitute a career-long pattern?> I was refering to the fact that his teams have never advanced beyond> the ALCS at best.And the causal connection to Alex is . . . ?

Are you trying to suggest that correlation isn't the same as causality?

You remind me of the tobacco company executives who testified tocongress that just because there was a correlation between smoking andlung cancer didn't mean smoking caused lung cancer.

Were those tobacco correlations based on a sample size of three
smokers?
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10-12-2006, 03:13 PM

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theBZA wrote:

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David Cronk <cronk@cRs.EMutOVk.eduE> wrote in news:452d4d38$1_3@news.utk.edu:

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theBZA wrote:

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David Cronk <cronk@cRs.EMutOVk.eduE> wrote innews:452d13aa$1_4@news.utk.edu:>theBZA wrote:>>>>Pepe Papon <a@mindspring.invalid> wrote in>>news:rl7oi2h19osd9ad76annjgoqjneksjpp6o@4ax.com:>>>>>>>>>>>On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 08:03:36 -0700, miguel <mjc101@gmail.com>>>>wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>theBZA wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pepe Papon wrote>>>>>>>>>>Do two playoff series constitute a career-long pattern?>>>>>>>>>I was refering to the fact that his teams have never advanced>>>>>beyond the ALCS at best.>>>>>>>>And the causal connection to Alex is . . . ?>>>>>>Are you trying to suggest that correlation isn't the same as>>>causality?>>>>>>You remind me of the tobacco company executives who testified to>>congress that just because there was a correlation between smoking>>and lung cancer didn't mean smoking caused lung cancer.>>>>You remind me of the person who hears that people who live in trailer>parks have a higher rate of heart attacks and thinks this means that>living in a trailer causes heart attacks.>It might.

You are right, without further study you can say it might, but itprobably does not.

Is it true that people who live in trailer parks have a higher rate of heart attack? People who live near toxic waste dumps have a higher rate of cancer. But that's probably just a correlation. Bush says so.

Way to duck my point. If you can't carry on an inteligent debate, then
I will stop wasting my time with you.

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10-12-2006, 03:15 PM

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David Cronk wrote:

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theBZA wrote:

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David Cronk <cronk@cRs.EMutOVk.eduE> wrote in news:452d4d38$1_3@news.utk.edu:

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theBZA wrote:> David Cronk <cronk@cRs.EMutOVk.eduE> wrote in> news:452d13aa$1_4@news.utk.edu:>>>> theBZA wrote:>>>>>>> Pepe Papon <a@mindspring.invalid> wrote in>>> news:rl7oi2h19osd9ad76annjgoqjneksjpp6o@4ax.com:>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 08:03:36 -0700, miguel <mjc101@gmail.com>>>>> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> theBZA wrote:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pepe Papon wrote>>>>>>>>>>>> Do two playoff series constitute a career-long pattern?>>>>>>>>>>> I was refering to the fact that his teams have never advanced>>>>>> beyond the ALCS at best.>>>>>>>>>> And the causal connection to Alex is . . . ?>>>>>>>> Are you trying to suggest that correlation isn't the same as>>>> causality?>>>>>>>>> You remind me of the tobacco company executives who testified to>>> congress that just because there was a correlation between smoking>>> and lung cancer didn't mean smoking caused lung cancer.>>>>>>> You remind me of the person who hears that people who live in trailer>> parks have a higher rate of heart attacks and thinks this means>> that living in a trailer causes heart attacks.>>>> It might. You are right, without further study you can say it might, but it probably does not.

Is it true that people who live in trailer parks have a higher rate of heart attack? People who live near toxic waste dumps have a higher rate of cancer. But that's probably just a correlation. Bush says so.

Way to duck my point. If you can't carry on an inteligent debate, then I will stop wasting my time with you.

Irony alert!

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