and so, the team that everyone picked to finish fourth in the west had
the best record in the division, and the second best record in the NL.

not too shabby, all things considered. the future should be bright.

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Dodgers fan stuck in sevarB country®

"Sam Monk" <samuelmonk@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:12igulal4178l8b@news.supernews.com...

Color me pessimistic. Yes, the future should be bright. We'll be in first
place. We'll trade Loney, Furcal, Ethier and Martin for a pitcher, a
questionable first baseman and a minor leaguer. Ima will prove what a great
move it was and in a year or two we'll get to the playoffs and get swept out
again.

You think this only happened once? Remember Lasorda getting the GM spot and
getting rid of a young first baseman by the name of Konerko and a ton of
other talent to win NOW. That too went no where. We were out-FOXed.

On Sat, 7 Oct 2006 22:18:37 -0700, "Triple" <rhager4@comcast.net>
wrote:


Heh. If you know anything about me, you know I place a MUCH greater
emphasis on young talent than the average fan. Better to play the
young players, and use the money saved to fill in holes with free
agents.

But it's sad to see you so bitter over being unable to answer my
comments on the Lo Duca trade that still so bothers you, even though
it helped the team.


Trades I hated at the time.

The one thing I can say about Colletti is that while I have hated many
of his trades - he has stuck to trading players who no longer looked
to be key players for future Dodger teams. He may have been reemed in
what he got in return, but players like Martin and Loney aren't the
ones he's traded.

"Ima Pseudonym" <akrasian@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
newsp2hi21i3g8edsavqedkap3nhjvhj889f4@4ax.com...

Your comments on "the trade" may be technically correct. However, trashing a
first place team to wind up on in the exact same position yielded nada. It
was a zero sum game. We were then and are now in the exact same place.
Nowhere. We haven't even won a playoff game since 1988. Which is going
nowhere fast.


Wait til next year.

On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 07:32:34 -0700, "Triple" <rhager4@comcast.net>
wrote:


Umm, yes the Dodgers have.

And as I pointed out, without the trade either the Dodgers end up
trading a top prospect for Finley, or they miss out on the 2004
playoffs. And, incidentally, don't make the playoffs this year
either. All without doing long term damage to the team.

Two playoff appearances vs likely zero playoff appearances - sounds
good to me, even if not optimal.

On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 00:12:25 -0400, "Sam Monk"
<samuelmonk@bellsouth.net> wrote:


Had an exciting charge to the finish.

Set some franchise records.


Not at all.

Though it does hurt to be killed by so many ex-Dodgers.


Well now, on that, it depends what the definition of "bright" is. We
came in first or second in a small and weak division of a league much
weaker than the other. We played a lot of rookies and trades, but it
seemed like a good team chemistry anyway - chalk that up to Grady, I
guess.

But the next steps up - to winning the pennant, much less winning the
series, those are big steps.

J.

Ima Pseudonym wrote:

How?!? Choi didn't really do anything in his short stint here, Penny
was in a 1 game then went out for the season. Navarro played decent but
came back to earth this year. Granted Pauly didn't hit well after the
AS break so what. The smart thing to do would have been to wait til
Martin was ready and THEN deal him after Martin showed that he could
handle the job full time. Yeah Mota wasn't effective like hw was the
year before but what was gotten in return turned out be mega crap.


Not impressed. Gave up on Guzman when no one really knew what he could
do and when he was learning a new position and got hosed. Traded Aybar
for a similar player and got hosed in the trade as he did in the Guzman
deal. Gets Hendrickson for a decent prospect and lets not forget that
he sent a REALLY good reliever away to get Seo. So far his deals have
been made of the stuff I send down the toilet. NOT trading Loney or
Martin were no brainers, the others you had to actually think about and
he came up empty.

On 8 Oct 2006 10:18:51 -0700, "Mike De Leon" <lazlo98@earthlink.net>
wrote:


Your question was answered in the "Ima -the Trade" thread. Try
responding there instead of asking me to rewrite what I said just
yesterday.

Incidentally, Ross was the ready replacement for Lo Duca.
Unfortunately, while he'd played well the year before, and has played
well in every other shot in the majors (and looks to be a star now for
the Reds) he sucked after the trade. Of course, so did Lo Duca.