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Old 10-09-2006, 10:50 AM
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"Greg Lentz" <nodamnspam@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
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Should the Giants pursue him? Does he have gas left in the tank?
Torre has always seemed like an okay guy and all, but is their *any*excuse not to be hugely successful with the teams he's been given? Inother words, were the last umpteen years in New York a real test of hismanagerial ability?
Well, it's not as if he carried the Braves to greatness, but at least you know he's not an impediment to winning. To be honest, that's about all I expect out of a manager. -- Greg Lentz


Again at 66 torre part of Giants youth movement. He grew up as a young man
a giants fan!!!


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Old 10-09-2006, 03:34 PM
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On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 12:08:27 -0700, Greg Lentz
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Should the Giants pursue him?


Yes. He's had a bad stretch in NY, but not, so far as I can tell, due
to poor game management skills a la Baker. He's a class act, though I
have to wonder if he'd even consider managing a Sabean roster.

-- Robert
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Old 10-09-2006, 09:42 PM
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Yes, exactly. A manger is like a choreograoher. They dictate who plays
where.They don't put on gloves or pick up a bat. Its really up to the
players to produce.

-Pat


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On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 22:29:49 GMT, Gregg Pearlman <EEEEEEgp@EEEEEEgp.com> wrote:
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Greg Lentz wrote:
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Should the Giants pursue him? Does he have gas left in the tank?
Torre has always seemed like an okay guy and all, but is their *any*excuse not to be hugely successful with the teams he's been given? Inother words, were the last umpteen years in New York a real test of hismanagerial ability?
Well, it's not as if he carried the Braves to greatness, but at least you know he's not an impediment to winning. To be honest, that's about all I expect out of a manager. -- Greg Lentz


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Old 10-10-2006, 05:53 AM
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Should the Giants pursue him? Does he have gas left in the tank?
Torre has always seemed like an okay guy and all, but is their *any* excuse not to be hugely successful with the teams he's been given? In other words, were the last umpteen years in New York a real test of his managerial ability?
It was luck or something, but he had a nice run of success immediately after taking over for Showalter. People were pitying silly Torre for accepting the job.

Okay, you mentioned Showalter, so I will say it. I pick the Rangers to win
the world series next year. Based on the fact that the last two teams that
Show was fired from, won the following year. 96 Yankees, 01 Dbacks.


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Old 10-10-2006, 02:38 PM
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Okay, you mentioned Showalter, so I will say it. I pick the Rangers to win the world series next year. Based on the fact that the last two teams that Show was fired from, won the following year. 96 Yankees, 01 Dbacks.


I guess the thing to do is hire Showalter for a year, then go all the
way in '08.

Gregg
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Old 10-10-2006, 10:25 PM
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"Gregg Pearlman" <EEEEEEgp@EEEEEEgp.com> wrote in message
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Don Jough wrote:
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Okay, you mentioned Showalter, so I will say it. I pick the Rangers

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Show was fired from, won the following year. 96 Yankees, 01 Dbacks. I guess the thing to do is hire Showalter for a year, then go all the way in '08.


Show me the water!!!

See, some Zen master would tell you that water is equivalent to the holy
grail, and holy grail in baseball is the WS. So, hire Show-water!


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