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Old 10-10-2006, 03:21 AM
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the ocregister is reporting that colletti has said he will make contract offers of some sort to maddux, garciaparra, and gagne. whatever that means.


Gagne?

Waste of money. He will never hold up.


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Old 10-10-2006, 03:26 AM
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"Phil" <tuco@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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If there is any way Ned can trade that fat bastard Penny and get something in return, please do so. The Skankees need some pitching. Call Cashman. Gagne is done, let him leave and give Saito a raise.


I'd have no problem seeing Penny on the Yanks, provided
we have someone who can replace him. Preferably a
pitcher who can last into October and get us 16+ wins.

Yeah I doubt Gagne will have the velocity he once did.


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Old 10-10-2006, 06:31 AM
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"Don Tootin'" <capngroovy@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Ok..who would you keep and who would you dump in 07? include pitchers, hitters and coaches.
C Martin--Stay OR ELSE!

Yes please...
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C Hall--G'night, and good luck 1B Loney--Stay 1B Garciaparra--Thank you, but good luck


I'd say stay depending on the contract. Loney may or may not be ready. He
looked fine in limited appearance but I am not sure he is ready to carry the
offensive burden for a team. If Nomar is healthy and can be signed for
another 1 year deal I'd say stay.
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2B 'stache--Stay, hopefully the head feels better next year SS Furcal--Stay fur gosh sake! 3B Betimit--Relegate to bench IF Saenz--stay IF Lugo-Lu-GONE IF Martinez--Go OF Ethier--Stay OF Lofton--Go. Age is not his friend OF Drew--Go


Why? I know the odds maker in me expects him to have an injury prone year
next year since he held up pretty well in 2006 but the guy has grown on me
and I would like to see him stay.
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OF Anderson--Stay. Good for 70-80 games OF Werth--Go OF Kemp--Stay SP Maddux--His choice. If he stays, he'll be good for 20 starts SP Lowe--Stay SP Penny--Stay

Yeah, not so sure about Penny. He is starting to look a little bit like
D.D.
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SP Billingsley--Stay SP Kuo--Stay CL Saito--Again, his choice. Stay if he can CL Gagne--I had the audacity to suggest trading him at the beginning of 2005 to a chorus of jeers in here. Not too bad an idea in retrospect, eh?


Yeah, if only life could be lived in hindsight. I think they should sign
him to a cheap one year deal heavily weighted with incentives. That way if
he surprises everyone and comes back at even 75% of what he once was he
won't be somewhere else hurting us.
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RP Broxton--Stay RP Beimel--Stay RP Brazoban--Stay, if he can recover from injury RP Carrara--Stay RP Dessens--Stay
P Hendrickson, Tomko, Sele--So long and thanks for...well, thank you Sele for a good couple months.


I didn't like the Tomko signing. I thought for a minute there he was going
to prove me wrong but no such luck. He is exactly as I remembered him.


AG


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Old 10-10-2006, 11:53 AM
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I don't if I want Lofton back. if I remember correctly he was signedbecause of his playoff experience. but I didn't see any this year, I'm notsure if I'd want a guy who went 1-12 in 3 games for next year's postseason. I hope Kemp can get some more discipline at the plate and take overin center next year.


Kemp needs some more discipline in the outfield.
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On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 23:24:13 -0700, Ima Pseudonym <akrasian@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote: >On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 23:17:13 -0700, "AguaGirl" <someone@somewhere.net> >wrote: > >> >>"Scott Matson" <biqquy@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>news:1160366383.219159.239670@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com... >>> The following players must be kept. The dodgers need 2 great >>> pitchers >>> to go to the WS. Try Marlon Anderson at 2nd but look for something >>> in >>> case he doesn't work out. Kent is great but he is old. I wish they >>> had a better defensive SS. >>> >>> C Russell Martin >>> 3B Wilson Betemit >>> LF Andre Ethier >>> RF J.D. Drew >>> 1B Julio Lugo >>> 1B Nomar Garciaparra >>> >>> SP Chad Billingsley >>> CL Takashi Saito >>> RP Jonathan Broxton >> >>Julio Lugo???? Seriously you want Lugo at first? Now I figure Lugo to
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>>ok defensive replacement but his offensive his horrible. We don't >>need
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>>at first and I am not convinced we need him at all. > >He's a much better hitter than he showed with the Dodgers - small >sample size, you know. And Anderson is a much worse player normally >than he showed in September - he's never shown that much power before, >and given his age I'd have to say it was a sample size issue - he got >hot, but over the course of a full season he'd be an okay at best >hitting second baseman who was below average defensively. > >Lugo won't be back btw, since he'll get a big offer to play shortstop >for some team - I'm guessing the Red Sox. > >Kent will be back - he signed that extension. > >What I'm hoping is that Loney will have the first base job to lose, >and if he slumps then Kent can be moved there. I'm not optimistic on >that, though. > >I wouldn't mind Maddux re-signed if the price were right, though I'd >rather they signed a premium starter, plus a long man/6th starter, and >let Billingsley and Kuo go at it in the rotation. (Figure Zito and >Lowe would be the surest top of the rotation in terms of inning eating >in the majors - Penny, Billingsley and Kuo would have upside but >risks). >> Maddux has apparently said he'd like to be back, and Coletti has apparently said that he'd like to sign another good starter over and above retaining Maddux, so if they can get on the same page it looks as though Maddux may be back. Lofton would also like to return, as would Gagne and Saito, but Saito wants a better financial deal, not sure what the amount he's looking for is though.
Saito won't be a free agent for 5 years unless he is released. When Gagne was signed I was about the only one who said it was a dumb deal. Uness he takes a really cheap contract with less than great incentive clauses keeping him would again be dumb. He is now a very high risk player.



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Old 10-10-2006, 02:09 PM
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I'd say stay depending on the contract. Loney may or may not be ready. He looked fine in limited appearance but I am not sure he is ready to carry the offensive burden for a team. If Nomar is healthy and can be signed for another 1 year deal I'd say stay.


I agree, but he doesn't seem to want the one year contract and somebody
will offer him two.
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Why? I know the odds maker in me expects him to have an injury prone year next year since he held up pretty well in 2006 but the guy has grown on me and I would like to see him stay.


Aside from my well-documented loathing of the guy? Almost all his
numbers came from April and half of May. While he physically stayed
together the entire year, he was absent from June 1 through August,
with a bit of an awakening in September. Many times this season I said
I'd forgive all if he could come through with a clutch at bat. Didn't
materialize.
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Yeah, not so sure about Penny. He is starting to look a little bit like D.D.


I'm not so ready to write the guy off yet. Not when he shares the
league lead in wins. Down year for pitchers across the board, I'll
concede, but he still has value. Of course, for every bit a Drew
"hater" that I've been, I've been a Penny supporter just as much.
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I didn't like the Tomko signing. I thought for a minute there he was going to prove me wrong but no such luck. He is exactly as I remembered him.

I hated Sele's signing. He was horrible with the Angels and to think
he'd fare better in blue seemed remote at best. In the end, I was
pleased with his contribution, but still don't want him back. Tomko
finally did something this year he couldn't do in San
Francisco--consistently defeat the Dodgers.

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Old 10-10-2006, 04:18 PM
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On 10 Oct 2006 07:09:59 -0700, "Don Tootin'" <capngroovy@gmail.com>
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I didn't like the Tomko signing. I thought for a minute there he was going to prove me wrong but no such luck. He is exactly as I remembered him.I hated Sele's signing. He was horrible with the Angels and to thinkhe'd fare better in blue seemed remote at best. In the end, I waspleased with his contribution, but still don't want him back. Tomkofinally did something this year he couldn't do in SanFrancisco--consistently defeat the Dodgers.


OUCH! That stings! LOL

GO BLUE!!!!

Toni
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Old 10-10-2006, 10:37 PM
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OF Drew--Go Why? I know the odds maker in me expects him to have an injury prone year next year since he held up pretty well in 2006 but the guy has grown on me and I would like to see him stay. AG


Now my question, why? So you can watch him get called out on strikes?
He was pretty healthy this year and didnt put up the numbers he should
for his salary. He has only had one really good season in his career
what makes anyone think he can repeat that? He sure hasn't shown it as
a Dodger and definatley didnt show it in the playoffs. Drew and Lugo
are the two players I would love to see gone.

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Old 10-11-2006, 05:11 AM
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OF Drew--Go Why? I know the odds maker in me expects him to have an injury prone year next year since he held up pretty well in 2006 but the guy has grown on me and I would like to see him stay. AG
Now my question, why? So you can watch him get called out on strikes? He was pretty healthy this year and didnt put up the numbers he should for his salary. He has only had one really good season in his career what makes anyone think he can repeat that? He sure hasn't shown it as a Dodger and definatley didnt show it in the playoffs. Drew and Lugo are the two players I would love to see gone.


Probably because he was the only one of the big offensive guys to stay
healthy all year. yeah, struck out a lot as guys who swing for the fences
often do but you know he also had the highest OBP of the regulars.
Seriously, all of his numbers are up there. Maybe for the money they could
do better but I doubt it. By the way, no one showed much in the play-offs.
Consider the sample size.

AG


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