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Old 10-10-2006, 04:20 AM
Sal Malva Sal Malva is offline
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I'm not sure that judging a reliever by ERA, particularly a middle-reliever,
is an accurate method to evaluate success rate. Many people think that
Geary had a successful 2006. I remember him giving up runs during middle
relief. He was pulled by Manuel before the runs were charged against him.
Hitters batted .287 against him. At best, he's "less-bad" than the Phillies
remaining relievers.


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Old 10-10-2006, 06:11 AM
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Default Geary

If a baserunner that reaches base off of "Pitcher A" scores off of "Pitcher
B" (after "Pitcher A" was relieved), the earned run goes against "Pitcher
A". That's why they have the "inherited runner" stats.

Regarding Geary... in 91.1 innings, he gave up 30 earned runs (2.96 ERA).
He inherited 40 runners, of which 13 scored (33%). Geary finished 2nd on
the Phils in pitcher VORP (Value Over Replacement Player) with a VORP of
27.6, Myers was 1st with a 40.8 VORP, Hamels 3rd with 22.9.

Here are the Phillies VORP numbers on the Baseball Prospectus website:
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/t...?stats&team=PHI

Not surprisingly, Abe Nunez finished last in hitter VORP with -18.3.




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middle-reliever,
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is an accurate method to evaluate success rate. Many people think that Geary had a successful 2006. I remember him giving up runs during middle relief. He was pulled by Manuel before the runs were charged against him. Hitters batted .287 against him. At best, he's "less-bad" than the

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Old 10-10-2006, 02:06 PM
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Default Geary

Thanks Beast....I learned something today...good info.



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If a baserunner that reaches base off of "Pitcher A" scores off of "Pitcher B" (after "Pitcher A" was relieved), the earned run goes against "Pitcher A". That's why they have the "inherited runner" stats. Regarding Geary... in 91.1 innings, he gave up 30 earned runs (2.96 ERA). He inherited 40 runners, of which 13 scored (33%). Geary finished 2nd on the Phils in pitcher VORP (Value Over Replacement Player) with a VORP of 27.6, Myers was 1st with a 40.8 VORP, Hamels 3rd with 22.9. Here are the Phillies VORP numbers on the Baseball Prospectus website: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/t...?stats&team=PHI Not surprisingly, Abe Nunez finished last in hitter VORP with -18.3. "NewsGroupie" <nicky316@comcast.net> wrote in message news:sYidneextpEOgrbYnZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
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I'm not sure that judging a reliever by ERA, particularly a
middle-reliever,
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is an accurate method to evaluate success rate. Many people think that Geary had a successful 2006. I remember him giving up runs during middle relief. He was pulled by Manuel before the runs were charged against him. Hitters batted .287 against him. At best, he's "less-bad" than the
Phillies
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remaining relievers.



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