http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...22/AR2005102201
386.html

"They're targeting my generation -- the hip-hop generation," Iverson said in
a television interview. He added, "You can put a murderer in a suit and he's
still a murderer." Iverson, along with Denver's Marcus Camby, asked if the
NBA would provide players with a clothing stipend to conform to the dress
code.

"It's definitely an attack on the hip-hop influence of the NBA," said
Elliott Wilson, the editor-in-chief of the hip-hop lifestyle magazine XXL.
"It sort of allows the men in charge to think that they have reclaimed the
NBA's value system -- and they now have a league that reflects their taste
and what they believe in."

"Young black kids dress like NBA players," Barkley told the Los Angeles
Times. "Unfortunately, they don't get paid like NBA players. So when they go
out in the real world, what they wear is held against them. . . .

"If a well-dressed white kid and a black kid wearing a 'do-rag and throwback
jersey came to me in a job interview, I'd hire the white kid. That's
reality."

Mark Cuban, the loquacious owner of the Dallas Mavericks who is fond of
wearing Mavericks T-shirts at his team's games, does not understand the fuss
over players' appearance. "Some in the NBA want things to work purely in a
way they are comfortable with rather than understanding players,
communicating with them and understanding how the players can bring added
value by dressing to fit the customer, rather than dressing to fit senior
management," Cuban said in an e-mail.

"If NBA TV ratings were higher, this never would have come up."

In rec.sport.basketball.pro on 23 Oct 2005 12:57:47 EDT s_knight8 wrote:


I had a job working in a meat freezer for awhile. It got so cold, especially
in my extremities, that I took to wearing these cotton leggings which
covered my lower leg from ankle to knee over my pants. After a while my boss
said I wasn't allowed to wear these any longer — he said it wasn't hygienic.
But I know what the real problem was: he was prejudiced against my
generation — the Flashdance generation.
--

all the best,
ed

Epitome:
Nice kid, but about as sharp as a sack of wet mice.
Email:
edkupfer. It's a gmail addy.
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On 23 Oct 2005 12:57:47 EDT, "s_knight8"
<s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:


Add this to Kenny Anderson having to sell one of his cars, and
Latrell and Patrick Ewing not having enough to feed their
families. Do they have any friggin' clue how they sound to a
guy that takes 2 years to make the $$$ they make in one night?

Idiots.

/snip/


Ya think?

"s_knight8" <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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1
in
he's

But all other things being equal...

Allen Iverson is so racist against Jayson Williams.

go
throwback

WANTED
Persl asst for caddying, s'wich
making, listening to opinions.
Some spongebathing req'd. Comp.
salary, possibility of sex'l hrrsmt/
drunken violence. Own snorkel,
hairnet musts.
NO DO RAGS
Contact CB, 231-4222
4pm-4am.

--
Jeremey

What a moron... When my companies start paying for my clothes then I will
agree with Iverson.

If Iverson had a job at EDS or JCPennys and he came into a board meeting
dressed like a thug, his ass would be canned.



"s_knight8" <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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In rec.sport.basketball.pro on Sun, 23 Oct 2005 21:37:57 GMT Douglas wrote:


Nobody is disputing that players should have a dress code at work or
work-related functions. It may surprise you to learn that players almost
always wear uniforms when they play their games. You seldom see players step
out on the court dressed as thugs.

If you took the trouble (and that is a plural "you" — it doesn't seem like
too many people are getting beyond the "they dress like thugs" stage of the
discourse[*]), you'd see that the disagreement is that the dress code
applies to players when they aren't at work. Seems to me like a legitimate
beef, even if there is room for disagreement. I mean, you wouldn't want to
have to take the bus home after work still wearing your IHOP uniform, right?

[* Is "thug" the new euphemism for "nigger"? I missed that meeting. I just
want to be on the same page here.]
--

all the best,
ed

Epitome:
Nice kid, but about as sharp as a sack of wet mice.
Email:
edkupfer. It's a gmail addy.
NBA Stats:
http://ca.geocities.com/brothered@r...eams/Front.html

"igor eduardo küpfer" <edkupfer@example.com> wrote in message
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Your 100% right. When they are off work they should be able to were what
ever they want.

"igor eduardo küpfer" <edkupfer@example.com> wrote in message
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The dress code doesnt apply for when players are in their free time... It
only applies for when players are involved in team or league business.. i.e.
meetings, sitting court side if injured, and representation of the team or
league...

Get your shit straight "With the new season set to begin Nov. 1, Stern
announced a dress code earlier this month that requires players to wear
"business casual" attire whenever they are engaged in team or league
business. It specifically bans shorts, T-shirts, jerseys, sneakers,
flip-flops, headgear such as 'do-rags, and chains, pendants and medallions
worn outside clothing."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...5102201386.html



The only people suggesthing Thug means nigger, are racial idiots like you
who like to play the race card. It's like when a white man says "you people"
refering to a certain type of person... Is that white person refering to all
black people? Would he use the term "you people" if refering to trailor park
trash? Ofcourse, but you turn everything into a race game. It's a play on
words. It's probablly why so many of our teachers, government officals, and
people in general have to be so careful with how they pronounce things so as
not just to avoid offending, but to avoid the assholes who are looking for a
reason to claim racial discrimination.

Dressing like a thug would describe dressing like some gang banger who has
purpousely distorted a look in order to show toughness and individualism for
his clique. Hence, when Alan Iverson dresses with his pants to the ground,
and hat to the side, and tatoos, he is dressing like a thug. Unlike Jordan
and Magic who dressed nicely and took care of themselves. Furthermore I am
not shocked that the Alan Iverson thug dressers commonly sing hateful music.
Anyway, I better quit because this is probablly way past your head, and you
probablly did not expect a logical response to your illogical claims which
are usually in hopes of just derailing logical conversation and turning it
back into a claim of racism.

* suggesting


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George Shouse wrote:

Not that Iverson saw beyond his own nose for these statements there is
a cogent argument that this will make a significant difference to
lesser players. Mark Cuban said it better than I could so here 'tis...

http://www.blogmaverick.com/entry/1234000287064079/

First. There is no question, that even at the minimum salary, NBA
rookies and 1st year players are blessed to be earning that much money.
However, realize that about 55 pct comes off the top for taxes (they
have to pay taxes in ever state we play in), agent and union dues, and
NBA Escrow. But more importantly, we bang on them to save, save save.
For most of the NBA minimum Free Agents in their first or 2nd year,
these will be the ONLY years they play in the NBA.

Its a darwinian business. Chances are this is their only year or two
in the NBA. If they are cut, they probably go play in the minor
leagues, or possibly in Europe, but in either case, there is a 95pct
chance that they arent going to be in this business, the one they have
dreamed of and prepared for their entire lives for more than 4 years.

Which in turn means they have to find a new profession. Thats not
cheap, thats not easy.

So while it may seem like a rookie free agent has plenty of money to
buy custom tailored suits or sport coats for up to 2 grand a pop, its
a big investment that could impact their future. In the big picture,
that rookie and everyone who knows this business, knows thats money
that should be saved for the future and its a huge hit for them.