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Old 07-02-2006, 06:08 PM
Dennis Dennis is offline
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I know it's a long shot, but what would
the Sixers have to unload to make room
for Wallace, assuming he would want
to come here? It would be a sign-and-trade,
but is there ANY chance? C-Webb returning
home? LOL!

Dennis

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Old 07-03-2006, 02:21 AM
Mr. Tolerence Mr. Tolerence is offline
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On 2 Jul 2006 11:08:00 -0700, doc.go.irish@gmail.com wrote:
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I know it's a long shot, but what wouldthe Sixers have to unload to make roomfor Wallace, assuming he would wantto come here? It would be a sign-and-trade,but is there ANY chance? C-Webb returninghome? LOL!Dennis

AI for Wallace is one possibility, but they have Rip and Billups, and
we'd have Wallace and CWebb at the same position. I also dont think
that Wallace for AI is fair return, and we'd be stuck at guard unless
we also get Rip or Billups in the deal.

CWebb would be the guy I'd like to unload for Wallace, but with Sheed
already there, they may not be interested. CWebb for Wallace would
really change this teams dynamic in a good way, especially considering
our draft, but sounds like too much to hope for. I seriously think we
could leap into contention in the east with that move.

By the way, anyone remember that Billups was a free agent no one
wanted a few years ago, while we were looking for a point guard?

Swyck
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Old 07-03-2006, 07:15 AM
Ian Kognitow Ian Kognitow is offline
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Swyck wrote:
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CWebb would be the guy I'd like to unload for Wallace, but with Sheed already there, they may not be interested. CWebb for Wallace would really change this teams dynamic in a good way, especially considering our draft, but sounds like too much to hope for. I seriously think we could leap into contention in the east with that move.



I'm sure that Detroit would just let Wallace walk away than pick up
Webber in a sign and trade. But, even for argument's sake, a sign and
trade would have to lock Wallace in at the max $17M that Detroit can
offer him to make the salaries close enough. Even if this year that
gets the Sixers into the second round, or even the eastern finals, I
still don't think it puts them in serious contention for the finals,
and it does nothing to help with cap flexibility for future moves.
Then in two years or so, the team would be right where it is now with
Webber, with an aging, grossly overpaid with several years still on his
contract.

*If* Wallace is determined to leave Detroit--and the only reason I
think he actually would is for the very possibility of Detroit not
deeming it a good idea to give him a long term contract--I could
imagine some scenario of trying to offer Dalembert and Korver. I
personally wouldn't do that because I don't think it is a good
long-term approach, but on the Detroit side, it gives them a
defensive-oriented center to replace Wallace, who could blossom with
the right coaching, plus an extra shooter, which I hear they are
looking for. So, I'm just saying - that could offer a more realistic
approach to a Wallace acquisition.


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Old 07-03-2006, 11:11 PM
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I just read that Hilario Nene signed a contract for $10 million a year.
Nene is a guy I thought the Sixers might be able to steal after the Nuggets
signed K-Mart, but he's been hurt ever since. Now I like Nene a lot, when
he's healthy, but he's a career bench player, and if he gets $10 million a
year for that, especially when he's been mostly in the hospital the last two
years, then what is it going to take to sign Wallace? {shudder]

------ Kurt Straub

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Swyck wrote:
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CWebb would be the guy I'd like to unload for Wallace, but with Sheed already there, they may not be interested. CWebb for Wallace would really change this teams dynamic in a good way, especially considering our draft, but sounds like too much to hope for. I seriously think we could leap into contention in the east with that move.
I'm sure that Detroit would just let Wallace walk away than pick up Webber in a sign and trade. But, even for argument's sake, a sign and trade would have to lock Wallace in at the max $17M that Detroit can offer him to make the salaries close enough. Even if this year that gets the Sixers into the second round, or even the eastern finals, I still don't think it puts them in serious contention for the finals, and it does nothing to help with cap flexibility for future moves. Then in two years or so, the team would be right where it is now with Webber, with an aging, grossly overpaid with several years still on his contract. *If* Wallace is determined to leave Detroit--and the only reason I think he actually would is for the very possibility of Detroit not deeming it a good idea to give him a long term contract--I could imagine some scenario of trying to offer Dalembert and Korver. I personally wouldn't do that because I don't think it is a good long-term approach, but on the Detroit side, it gives them a defensive-oriented center to replace Wallace, who could blossom with the right coaching, plus an extra shooter, which I hear they are looking for. So, I'm just saying - that could offer a more realistic approach to a Wallace acquisition. --IK



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Old 07-04-2006, 03:29 PM
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Kurt Straub wrote:
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I just read that Hilario Nene signed a contract for $10 million a year. Nene is a guy I thought the Sixers might be able to steal after the Nuggets signed K-Mart, but he's been hurt ever since. Now I like Nene a lot, when he's healthy, but he's a career bench player, and if he gets $10 million a year for that, especially when he's been mostly in the hospital the last two years, then what is it going to take to sign Wallace? {shudder]


Apparently $13M a year.

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Old 07-05-2006, 12:33 AM
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On 4 Jul 2006 08:29:38 -0700, "Ian Kognitow" <covanus@gmail.com>
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Kurt Straub wrote:
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I just read that Hilario Nene signed a contract for $10 million a year. Nene is a guy I thought the Sixers might be able to steal after the Nuggets signed K-Mart, but he's been hurt ever since. Now I like Nene a lot, when he's healthy, but he's a career bench player, and if he gets $10 million a year for that, especially when he's been mostly in the hospital the last two years, then what is it going to take to sign Wallace? {shudder]
Apparently $13M a year.

I don't see how anyone can give Nene $10 mil. That's just wrong.

Swyck
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Old 07-05-2006, 12:58 AM
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Swyck wrote:
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I don't see how anyone can give Nene $10 mil. That's just wrong.


It's certainly more attractive than the average of $14M that stupid
Denver is giving Kenyon Martin.

-IK

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Old 07-05-2006, 04:08 AM
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With Wallace going to the Bulls, many other player moves will start falling
like dominoes. I think many insiders assumed Detroit would do anything to
keep their starting 5 together but Wallace destroyed any chance of that.
That really leaves the East a much more level playing field. My guess is
that makes the trade market for Iverson much larger as many teams will
perceive themselves very close now. I just don't think Philly would trade
Iverson to Boston though. Trading Iverson for Wally World would make Boston
a very dangerous team.

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