Thats my over-all opinion thus far.

Maybe if Croshere and Ager do excellent.. and maybe if Diop grows by leaps
and bounds or Shrek'. But overall they have simply traded out some
players... but you know, the Mavs are still missing a dominant big man...
That's just the bottom line.. What next? More doubling of Duncan and Shaq?

I thought the Mavs were fortunate this year to make it as far as they did
without a dominant center..

The facts remain.. if you dont have a good center then you dont have a
championship..

Ben Wallace, Shaq, Duncan... and Ben Wallace went straight to Chicago...

*mavs* wrote:

i don't think that's the problem. the mavs didn't get any better on
paper. you lost kvh and daniels, you got ager and kvh. that's not a
typo, the only difference is 2nd pick vs 12th pick. their stats are
interchangable. they both are charmin, hurt all the time, and don't play D.

anyway, he's not going to be the difference on the team or even a key.
the mavs are good, they just didn't finish what the started. you have to
ask yourself, did they really get over the hump, or did they do the same
thing in a different way?

personally, i don't know if the spurs are better or worse. nazr and
rasho? neither was huge. maybe nazr a little in the 2005 playoffs, but
he's got hands of stone and never learned the defensive rotations. ewill
and boner? beats me what they will do.

dave

Yes they simply traded out players if you want to look at it that way...

but at the same drop... I think a dominant center is completely
important..... no one fears dampier.. I am sad were going to have to put up
with his ass for another year.


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*mavs* wrote:

I see where you're coming from, but the difference in that series was
the fact that dwade and the other players stepped up down the stretch
in the final 4 games. Dirk and your boys didn't. When it boiled down
to heart and will to win, you came up short because your players are
mentally soft. I'm not saying they are not good players, they just
don't have the closer mentality collectively.

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I don't think Dirk ever showed up in the series. He missed even when he
wasnt being guarded well.
Nonetheless I wonder if he would have been more calm if he had someone under
the basket... he sure as shit wouldnt have been double teamed...

The fact is that the Heat had the center that the Mavs dont have.

"*> but at the same drop... I think a dominant center is completely

a dominant big man is like having a chmpionship, not many teams have it, and
they all want it.

MrB

they missed their window

done



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On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 06:34:02 GMT, "*mavs*" <gomavs@gomavz.com> wrote:


Damp and DIop are fine defensively. They did a pretty adequate job on
Duncan. Neither can score a lick, but the Mav offense does not move
through the low post. Ager will replace Daniels' minutes, which is to
say he will have 5 to 10 inconsequential minutes a game.

Mavs did not improve, but neither did the Spurs or Pistons, and it
remains to be seen if the Heat can hold together. Don't start
panicking just yet.

*mavs* wrote:

But where are the dominant centers in the League? Shaq was certainly
not dominant in the PO.

*mavs* wrote:

i dunno about that. shaq put up some pretty pedestrian numbers in the
finals. IMO it all comes down to poise and mental toughness. this is
not a knock, or a rub it in....just an observation, something that i
stated months ago and still stand by it.

lee