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Old 08-02-2006, 07:29 PM
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http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjourn...ts/15178455.htm

I guess there are worse options than Evans, but I'd still rather see a F/C
signed over a LeBron-sized PF.



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Old 08-02-2006, 11:59 PM
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On Wed, 2 Aug 2006 15:29:26 -0400, "JT" <noaddressgiven@hotmail.com>
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http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjourn...ts/15178455.htmI guess there are worse options than Evans, but I'd still rather see a F/Csigned over a LeBron-sized PF.


lebron is an anachronism, but it still helps put it into perspective.

i'm not sure i want another frontcourt guy whose game is more hustle
than skill or ability and shoots bricks at the FT line. we've already
got one in varejao and he's lot's cheaper.

but if we do get him, i'd rather see him basically platoon with
varejao so that they're never on the floor together - so the other big
man on the floor (either Z or marshall or gooden if we still have him)
will be an offensive threat in some way.

given that denver's overloaded with big men AND wants to sign van horn
on top of that while being only $3mil under the cap , i don't see how
they'd be able to retain evans without a major hometown discount. and
any agent with a client being wooed by the nuggets has to be
positively salivating at the prospect of how much they can get the
nuggets to overpay their client.


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Old 08-03-2006, 04:47 AM
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"JT" <noaddressgiven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjourn...ts/15178455.htm I guess there are worse options than Evans, but I'd still rather see a F/C signed over a LeBron-sized PF.


I did not realize he was that "small". Hard to believe he gets so many
rebounds per minutes played. I am not so sure height has as much to do with
rebounding as several other variables. Barkley was a great rebounder at 6'6"
and Rodman led the league countless times being only 6'9".
Anybody know about his defense?

They are also looking at Lorenzen Wright, who is a taller C/PF. He may be a
better fit for our needs but will not put up the rebounding numbers Evans
does.

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Old 08-04-2006, 12:57 AM
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Keith Jones wrote:
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I did not realize he was that "small". Hard to believe he gets so many rebounds per minutes played. I am not so sure height has as much to do with rebounding as several other variables. Barkley was a great rebounder at 6'6" and Rodman led the league countless times being only 6'9". Anybody know about his defense?


Height is not really a major factor when it comes to rebounding; it's
all about positioning and timing, which is why guys like
Barkley/Evans/Rodman/Fortson pulled down so many. It's also an
over-rated factor in D, and some of the better 1-on-1 D I've seen
played against Shaq has come from Elton Brand and Danny Fortson.

I've seen Evans play a bunch of times while he was at Seattle, and I'd
say he's an above average defender. He doesn't block shots, but he uses
his body and doesn't mind contact.
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They are also looking at Lorenzen Wright, who is a taller C/PF. He may be a better fit for our needs but will not put up the rebounding numbers Evans does.


I'm really starting to warm up to Wright in a Cavs uniform. Evans is
after the full mid-exception, which probably only the Nuggets will give
him - assuming they don't land Bonzi Wells.

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Old 08-04-2006, 06:59 AM
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On 3 Aug 2006 17:57:19 -0700, "Angus Haynes" <angushaynes@hotmail.com>
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Keith Jones wrote:
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I did not realize he was that "small". Hard to believe he gets so many rebounds per minutes played. I am not so sure height has as much to do with rebounding as several other variables. Barkley was a great rebounder at 6'6" and Rodman led the league countless times being only 6'9". Anybody know about his defense?
Height is not really a major factor when it comes to rebounding; it'sall about positioning and timing, which is why guys likeBarkley/Evans/Rodman/Fortson pulled down so many. It's also anover-rated factor in D, and some of the better 1-on-1 D I've seenplayed against Shaq has come from Elton Brand and Danny Fortson.


to me, it was never about evans being small - a guy who's 6'8" and 240
can likely kick my a-s without working up much of sweat - but that
lebron is a man-child.
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I've seen Evans play a bunch of times while he was at Seattle, and I'dsay he's an above average defender. He doesn't block shots, but he useshis body and doesn't mind contact.
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They are also looking at Lorenzen Wright, who is a taller C/PF. He may be a better fit for our needs but will not put up the rebounding numbers Evans does.
I'm really starting to warm up to Wright in a Cavs uniform. Evans isafter the full mid-exception, which probably only the Nuggets will givehim - assuming they don't land Bonzi Wells.


they have the mid-level to offer, but are also only 3mil under the
cap, so the mid-level would really be worth $7mil on the books
counting the penalty. *that*, he's not worth. given that they
allegedly also want keith van horn who is probably going to rate about
4mil a year, the only way denver makes this work is if kenyon martin
(or nene) slips and falls in front of a bus.

i don't want wright just because he's bigger - i'd like to find out
why he's gotten fewer and fewer minutes since leaving the clippers.
frankly, i was more intrigued by jared jefferies than wright.
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Old 08-05-2006, 04:15 PM
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On 3 Aug 2006 17:57:19 -0700, "Angus Haynes" <angushaynes@hotmail.com>
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I'm really starting to warm up to Wright in a Cavs uniform. Evans isafter the full mid-exception, which probably only the Nuggets will givehim - assuming they don't land Bonzi Wells.-AngusH


the atlanta journal-constitution reports that wright will sign a 2
year contract worth $6mil with the hawks.

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Old 08-10-2006, 11:41 PM
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Nuggets just traded Patterson to the Bucks for Joe Smith. Does this
mean that the Nuggets are giving up on Evans? The T'Wolves are the
other suitors, but can offer no more than $1.75m.

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Old 08-11-2006, 04:49 AM
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"Angus Haynes" <angushaynes@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Nuggets just traded Patterson to the Bucks for Joe Smith. Does this mean that the Nuggets are giving up on Evans? The T'Wolves are the other suitors, but can offer no more than $1.75m. -AngusH


It would appear that way with Smith, K-Mart and Evans they are loaded at 4
with Nene and Camby at 5. If I were the Cavs, I would try to grab him at a
bargain price as insurance in case Gooden leaves this year or next. They
could use Varejao or Marshall to backup Z.

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Old 08-11-2006, 08:20 PM
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On 10 Aug 2006 16:41:06 -0700, "Angus Haynes"
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Nuggets just traded Patterson to the Bucks for Joe Smith. Does thismean that the Nuggets are giving up on Evans? The T'Wolves are theother suitors, but can offer no more than $1.75m.-AngusH


i think it means that keith van horn is out more than anything else as
smith fills a scoring role that evans can't. as both players were in
the last year of 6 year 34-ish million contracts, the dollars are the
same.

evans reportedly wants the midlevel exception and i imagine that he &
his agent figure that denver's recent history of willingness to
overpay in the cases of kenyon martin, earl watson, nene, etc. gives
him a shot at it. i see it happening only if they manage to unload one
of their big men like kenyon martin - they're only 3 mil under the cap
and with the dollar for dollar penalty, it'd cost them $7mil the first
year.

i suspect that the cavs would actually prefer to retain gooden and his
rights for $6-7mil a year vs. getting evans at around 3-4 mil and
talked to evans to light a fire under gooden & his agent, and evans
probably had the same motive in terms of getting denver's attention
when he allowed it to leak that he was meeting with the cavs at "an
undisclosed location". i'm guessing that they probably just nodded to
each other while in the mens room at the airport during a scheduled
layover.





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