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Old 08-14-2006, 04:01 PM
J.T. J.T. is offline
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Default Cavs re-sign Gooden

3 years, $23 mil. Well, we got him for the $7+ mil that he's worth. Nice,
short contract doesn't tie us to him fro very long and makes him easily
tradeable for the duration of his deal. Very nice.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2549112




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Old 08-14-2006, 07:03 PM
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Default Cavs re-sign Gooden

On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 12:01:21 -0400, "JT" <noaddressgiven@hotmail.com>
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3 years, $23 mil. Well, we got him for the $7+ mil that he's worth. Nice,short contract doesn't tie us to him fro very long and makes him easilytradeable for the duration of his deal. Very nice.http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2549112


i was thinking the same thing about tradeability. in 2009 he's going
to be very attractive to another team over the cap - kinda like
magloire this upcoming season.

this should start a domino effect with players like wilcox and evans,
with wilcox now more likely to resign with the sonics, and evans
settling for much less than the mid-level exception that he was hoping
for in re-sigining with denver- unless denver manages to trade
somebody and can then overpay and stay under the cap.


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Old 08-15-2006, 03:16 AM
Angus Haynes Angus Haynes is offline
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Default Cavs re-sign Gooden

No complaints from me about this contract - especially the length. This
gives us an easily tradeable asset, and it stops Gooden from being able
to coast along, cashing in a paycheck, for the next 6 years. Clearly
Gooden is hoping that in 3 years time he'll be looking at another jump
up in cash, so we should have ourselves a hungry PF for the next couple
of seasons.

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Old 08-15-2006, 03:29 AM
Keith Jones Keith Jones is offline
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Default Cavs re-sign Gooden

This is a win for the Cavs. The article also stated my point that we will
most likely be starting the season with the same team as last year depending
on players to get better. Let's hope our young talent......Brown, Varejao,
Gibson, Pavlovic, Jackson, Graham, Marty improve while our older guys like
Z, Marshall, Snow, Jones have better years or don't continue their declines
(though Z was fairly steady last year). Lebron improving is a given. Most
importantly, Hughes must remain healthy.

The team played together one year and took Detroit the distance and could
easily have beaten them under a first year head coach so I would expect an
improvement on our 50-win season and more consistency at both ends of the
court.

The suspense is over. They may sign another PG like Wesley if they really
feel the need. I see no reason we need a true PG since Lebron fills that
role nicely and am hoping Brown is the real deal and gets more minutes on
the floor with Hughes.

Keith


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Old 08-16-2006, 02:04 AM
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Keith Jones wrote:
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This is a win for the Cavs. The article also stated my point that we will most likely be starting the season with the same team as last year depending on players to get better. Let's hope our young talent......Brown, Varejao, Gibson, Pavlovic, Jackson, Graham, Marty improve while our older guys like Z, Marshall, Snow, Jones have better years or don't continue their declines (though Z was fairly steady last year). Lebron improving is a given. Most importantly, Hughes must remain healthy. The team played together one year and took Detroit the distance and could easily have beaten them under a first year head coach so I would expect an improvement on our 50-win season and more consistency at both ends of the court. The suspense is over. They may sign another PG like Wesley if they really feel the need. I see no reason we need a true PG since Lebron fills that role nicely and am hoping Brown is the real deal and gets more minutes on the floor with Hughes. Keith


What about a PG?

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Old 08-17-2006, 02:12 AM
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Default Cavs re-sign Gooden

barry wrote:
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On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 12:01:21 -0400, "JT" <noaddressgiven@hotmail.com> wrote:
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3 years, $23 mil. Well, we got him for the $7+ mil that he's worth. Nice, short contract doesn't tie us to him fro very long and makes him easily tradeable for the duration of his deal. Very nice. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2549112
i was thinking the same thing about tradeability. in 2009 he's going to be very attractive to another team over the cap - kinda like magloire this upcoming season. this should start a domino effect with players like wilcox and evans, with wilcox now more likely to resign with the sonics, and evans settling for much less than the mid-level exception that he was hoping for in re-sigining with denver- unless denver manages to trade somebody and can then overpay and stay under the cap. "i can spell. i just can't type."


I agree completely. I said all along there is no way he gets $10M.

Denver is smoking something with Nene's deal.
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Old 08-17-2006, 04:16 AM
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Default Cavs re-sign Gooden

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 02:12:26 GMT, Dan Hosek <none@nowhere.not> wrote:
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barry wrote:
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On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 12:01:21 -0400, "JT" <noaddressgiven@hotmail.com> wrote:
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3 years, $23 mil. Well, we got him for the $7+ mil that he's worth. Nice, short contract doesn't tie us to him fro very long and makes him easily tradeable for the duration of his deal. Very nice. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2549112
i was thinking the same thing about tradeability. in 2009 he's going to be very attractive to another team over the cap - kinda like magloire this upcoming season. this should start a domino effect with players like wilcox and evans, with wilcox now more likely to resign with the sonics, and evans settling for much less than the mid-level exception that he was hoping for in re-sigining with denver- unless denver manages to trade somebody and can then overpay and stay under the cap. "i can spell. i just can't type."
I agree completely. I said all along there is no way he gets $10M.Denver is smoking something with Nene's deal.


with kenyon, nene & marcus camby they're going to get hammered when
carmelo's max contract kicks in, and they're going to have to resign
andre miller (currently making $8 mil) or move him in a sign & trade.

somebody's already suggesting that varejao should be able to command a
contract starting at least $7mil at year in 2007. i don't see where
the money is going to come from though.

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Old 08-20-2006, 07:54 PM
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"barry" <toisan_boy@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:85q7e2p6sas4tf7slngqosbvosvss5lub2@4ax.com...
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On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 02:12:26 GMT, Dan Hosek <none@nowhere.not> wrote:
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barry wrote:
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On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 12:01:21 -0400, "JT" <noaddressgiven@hotmail.com> wrote:> 3 years, $23 mil. Well, we got him for the $7+ mil that he's worth.

Nice,
Quote:
> short contract doesn't tie us to him fro very long and makes him

easily
Quote:
> tradeable for the duration of his deal. Very nice.>> http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2549112 i was thinking the same thing about tradeability. in 2009 he's going to be very attractive to another team over the cap - kinda like magloire this upcoming season. this should start a domino effect with players like wilcox and evans, with wilcox now more likely to resign with the sonics, and evans settling for much less than the mid-level exception that he was hoping for in re-sigining with denver- unless denver manages to trade somebody and can then overpay and stay under the cap. "i can spell. i just can't type."I agree completely. I said all along there is no way he gets $10M.Denver is smoking something with Nene's deal. with kenyon, nene & marcus camby they're going to get hammered when carmelo's max contract kicks in, and they're going to have to resign andre miller (currently making $8 mil) or move him in a sign & trade. somebody's already suggesting that varejao should be able to command a contract starting at least $7mil at year in 2007. i don't see where the money is going to come from though.


I don't either. It was one of the things I was concerned about when they
signed Gooden. Of the two, I think Varejao may have more upside for our
style of play, though they are two completely different players. I cannot
see Varejao commanding that kind of money unless he starts, becomes a bigger
offensive force, NBA first team defense, averages 10+ rebounds per game. His
style of play leads to injuries. He has yet to be healthy a full season.

Keith


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