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Old 08-22-2006, 04:30 PM
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Would you trade Rasheed Wallace for Chris Webber straight up?

I would, Webb's numbers were amazingly better than Wallace's last year.
He's probably not the player of old but I suspect there is plenty left
in the tank if he could get truly in the hunt for a title. Webber is
hungry, local guy, well loved even after controversy and should have
been a Piston years ago.

Sheed is a Phili and cheese steak kid who needs to be sent home. He has
his ring!
I don't think he cares much for Flip Saunders and could be well prepared
to combat him this season with Ben gone. Flip with Ben out of the way
has be given seemingly even more power in the locker room which could
lead to a disruption and rebellion by Sheed who has an obvious dislike
for authoritive figures. His numbers and behavior were erradic at times
last year and his money is given. He has no need to exceed and could go
the whole season just going through the motions. Personally I'd move
him or at least hire Lamibeer or Mahorn as Flips' assistant so Sheed has
someone on that bench he has to respect.

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Old 08-22-2006, 06:42 PM
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Would you trade Rasheed Wallace for Chris Webber straight up? I would, Webb's numbers were amazingly better than Wallace's last year. He's probably not the player of old but I suspect there is plenty left in the tank if he could get truly in the hunt for a title. Webber is hungry, local guy, well loved even after controversy and should have been a Piston years ago. Sheed is a Phili and cheese steak kid who needs to be sent home. He has his ring! I don't think he cares much for Flip Saunders and could be well prepared to combat him this season with Ben gone. Flip with Ben out of the way has be given seemingly even more power in the locker room which could lead to a disruption and rebellion by Sheed who has an obvious dislike for authoritive figures. His numbers and behavior were erradic at times last year and his money is given. He has no need to exceed and could go the whole season just going through the motions. Personally I'd move him or at least hire Lamibeer or Mahorn as Flips' assistant so Sheed has someone on that bench he has to respect.


you know I woud almost do this..but Webber's knee woes stop me from really
considering this


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Old 08-22-2006, 07:34 PM
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rdjio@webtv.net wrote:
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Would you trade Rasheed Wallace for Chris Webber straight up? I would, Webb's numbers were amazingly better than Wallace's last year.


So were the players numbers that Webber was guarding... =)

Compare these numbers

http://www.82games.com/0506/0506PHI.HTM

http://www.82games.com/0506/0506DET.HTM


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Old 08-22-2006, 10:05 PM
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Default Sheed for Webber straight up, would you do it, I would...

Webers body is not going to last. The only reason i could which isn't true
would be to lower the teams salary level. We need another big guy for now
but Garnett was like the only 1 worth getting. With the league changing i
think the object is now keep it close and hope some foreigners work out that
are faster & white. Team attitudes are changing and most of the guys who
think they are all-stars are on their way out that have been around for 7-10
years which leaves nobody in the drivers seat anywhere. There is not 1 team
that is stacked that can make it. Most teams need their #1 guy to make it
and nobody has depth. Dumars is probably playing this smart & waiting since
he knows the same thing.


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Old 08-23-2006, 04:04 AM
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rdjio@webtv.net wrote:
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Would you trade Rasheed Wallace for Chris Webber straight up? I would, Webb's numbers were amazingly better than Wallace's last year. He's probably not the player of old but I suspect there is plenty left in the tank if he could get truly in the hunt for a title. Webber is hungry, local guy, well loved even after controversy and should have been a Piston years ago. Sheed is a Phili and cheese steak kid who needs to be sent home. He has his ring! I don't think he cares much for Flip Saunders and could be well prepared to combat him this season with Ben gone. Flip with Ben out of the way has be given seemingly even more power in the locker room which could lead to a disruption and rebellion by Sheed who has an obvious dislike for authoritive figures. His numbers and behavior were erradic at times last year and his money is given. He has no need to exceed and could go the whole season just going through the motions. Personally I'd move him or at least hire Lamibeer or Mahorn as Flips' assistant so Sheed has someone on that bench he has to respect.


The fact that you would make this trade, plus the fact that you think
Magic is so much better than Jordan (that it's not even close) proves
that you have no concept of defense, no value for defense and are just
looking at stats. You have no concept of what comes within the flow of
the game, and how that affects stats. You ignore that you have to play
both ends of the floor. Webber was NEVER a good defender one on one,
even when healthy. Yes he could block a shot every now and again, but
would leave his man to do so. You value flash more than substance.
Rasheed has always done the dirty work at the defensive end. I've
never been a fan of Sheed's act, but I give credit where it is due.
He's a premier player on both ends, and defers to Rip Hamilton to make
his team better even though he could probably score 25 a night if he
wanted to be a selfish player. He guards players in the post, on the
perimeter and does well at both. He even matched up against Shaq for a
good part of the Miami series, giving up 100 pounds and getting beat
up, for the good of the team. He's the guy who draws Duncan when they
play SA, draws Garnett etc. He handles those players and makes them
WORK for their shots. Webber on the other hand has whined and bitched
his way out of Golden State, failing to honor a verbal deal with the
owner in doing so, whined his way out of Washington and alienated a
long time friend in Juwan Howard, bitched about Sacramento the town
after they treated him like God for all those years and complained his
way out of there, and now complains that he doesn't get his shots in
Philly. Guess what, it's not the rest of the world at fault, it's CWeb
who is at fault. And you would rather have HIM on your team than
Rasheed Wallace who was the acquisition who put Detroit over the top in
the year it won its most recent championship. Speaks volumes about
your knowledge of TEAM sport, TEAM chemistry, Unselfishness, Defense
and on and on and on. You should wait ten more years before posting
your opinion on hoops.

Frank Rizzo

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Old 08-23-2006, 06:21 AM
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Frank Rizzo wrote:
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rdjio@webtv.net wrote:
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Would you trade Rasheed Wallace for Chris Webber straight up? I would, Webb's numbers were amazingly better than Wallace's last year. He's probably not the player of old but I suspect there is plenty left in the tank if he could get truly in the hunt for a title. Webber is hungry, local guy, well loved even after controversy and should have been a Piston years ago. Sheed is a Phili and cheese steak kid who needs to be sent home. He has his ring! I don't think he cares much for Flip Saunders and could be well prepared to combat him this season with Ben gone. Flip with Ben out of the way has be given seemingly even more power in the locker room which could lead to a disruption and rebellion by Sheed who has an obvious dislike for authoritive figures. His numbers and behavior were erradic at times last year and his money is given. He has no need to exceed and could go the whole season just going through the motions. Personally I'd move him or at least hire Lamibeer or Mahorn as Flips' assistant so Sheed has someone on that bench he has to respect.
The fact that you would make this trade, plus the fact that you think Magic is so much better than Jordan (that it's not even close) proves that you have no concept of defense, no value for defense and are just looking at stats. You have no concept of what comes within the flow of the game, and how that affects stats. You ignore that you have to play both ends of the floor. Webber was NEVER a good defender one on one, even when healthy. Yes he could block a shot every now and again, but would leave his man to do so. You value flash more than substance. Rasheed has always done the dirty work at the defensive end. I've never been a fan of Sheed's act, but I give credit where it is due. He's a premier player on both ends, and defers to Rip Hamilton to make his team better even though he could probably score 25 a night if he wanted to be a selfish player. He guards players in the post, on the perimeter and does well at both. He even matched up against Shaq for a good part of the Miami series, giving up 100 pounds and getting beat up, for the good of the team. He's the guy who draws Duncan when they play SA, draws Garnett etc. He handles those players and makes them WORK for their shots. Webber on the other hand has whined and bitched his way out of Golden State, failing to honor a verbal deal with the owner in doing so, whined his way out of Washington and alienated a long time friend in Juwan Howard, bitched about Sacramento the town after they treated him like God for all those years and complained his way out of there, and now complains that he doesn't get his shots in Philly. Guess what, it's not the rest of the world at fault, it's CWeb who is at fault. And you would rather have HIM on your team than Rasheed Wallace who was the acquisition who put Detroit over the top in the year it won its most recent championship. Speaks volumes about your knowledge of TEAM sport, TEAM chemistry, Unselfishness, Defense and on and on and on. You should wait ten more years before posting your opinion on hoops. Frank Rizzo


Hear Hear!


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Old 08-23-2006, 03:41 PM
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Default Sheed for Webber straight up, would you do it, I would...

On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 12:30:52 -0400, rdjio@webtv.net enlightened us:
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Would you trade Rasheed Wallace for Chris Webber straight up?


Absolutely not. That would be one of the worst trade the Pistons
could/would ever make. Webber is nowhere near the player he was when
he was in Sacramento. They dumped him on Philly knowing full well his
injuries were going to take their tole on him. Rasheed has been
mostly injury free his entire time in Detroit and putting up good
numbers night in night out as well as playing very good defense,
something Webber can only dream about.

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I would, Webb's numbers were amazingly better than Wallace's last year.He's probably not the player of old but I suspect there is plenty leftin the tank if he could get truly in the hunt for a title. Webber ishungry, local guy, well loved even after controversy and should havebeen a Piston years ago.Sheed is a Phili and cheese steak kid who needs to be sent home. He hashis ring!I don't think he cares much for Flip Saunders and could be well preparedto combat him this season with Ben gone. Flip with Ben out of the wayhas be given seemingly even more power in the locker room which couldlead to a disruption and rebellion by Sheed who has an obvious dislikefor authoritive figures. His numbers and behavior were erradic at timeslast year and his money is given. He has no need to exceed and could gothe whole season just going through the motions. Personally I'd movehim or at least hire Lamibeer or Mahorn as Flips' assistant so Sheed hassomeone on that bench he has to respect.


Thank God you have no say on how the Pistons are run!

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Old 08-24-2006, 01:41 PM
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You're hostility shows your losing!

And the fact that you can't discern the difference and factual contents
of two separate threads reveals you to be a little bitch!

Fuck off!

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Old 08-24-2006, 01:43 PM
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Default Sheed for Webber straight up, would you do it, I would...Skippy

7 points in a playoff game isn't considered a good number!

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Old 08-24-2006, 03:26 PM
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rdjio@webtv.net wrote:
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7 points in a playoff game isn't considered a good number!


Again, go away. You don't know anything about hoops. At least three
others in here have verbally supported my point, while none agree with
you. Go eat some drano and whatever you do don't procreate. We have
enough kids on welfare without you adding to the mix.

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