Starters (this is a no-brainer) -same as last year

SF - James
PF - Gooden
C- Z
SG - Hughes
PG - Snow

At crunch timer I predict you will see:

SF- James
PF - Marshall
C - AV (mostly) or Z depending on matchups
SG - Hughes (when healthy)
PG - Wesley

I think the finishers are far more important than who starts. This group
gives us the best combination of offense and defense to put on the floor.

Marshall (assuming he gets his shit together) and Wesley give us 3-point
shooters. Lebron and Hughes can slash to the basket. So can Wesley. Marshall
and AV/Z can rebound. I am inclined to believe AV is better defensively in
wreaking havoc, drawing charges and his ability to cover on the perimeter.
The Achilles' heel with AV is FT %. Z is our best FT'er but slower
defensively

Defensively, I think this is the best unit we can put on the floor (Snow may
be better than Wesley, but that is all he does). I think Wesley was a very
shrewd signing that will reap huge rewards. I think he will be a major
contributor.

The emergence of Varejao and the addition of Wesley along with Lebron's
defensive improvement and a healthy Hughes will make this team a much better
one than last year to watch in the fourth quarter especially if Marshall
returns to form.

Keith

Keith

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Keith Jones wrote:

It will also depend on who we are playing. I wouldn't mind forcing the
action a bit by going small(ish).

C - AV/Marshall/Z
PF - LeBron
SF - Hughes
SG - Wesley
PG - Snow/Brown?

Or, if Jackson, Pavlovic or somebody make a massive step forward, move
Wesley over the the 1, Hughes to the 2, and insert somebody at the 3.

This gives us a really quick lineup that could punish by pushing the
ball and drawing fouls.

On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 14:10:43 GMT, Dan Hosek <none@nowhere.not> wrote:


assuming brown is still the coach, i will expect that brown will
continue to place a premium on defense in the 4th quarter.

if lebron or hughes take the point in the 4th quarter, it wouldn't
surprise me to see one of our rookie guards in brown, gibson and
especially basden (if he makes the club it'll probably be because he
showed that he can be a legiitimate 3pt threat -yet also be a threat
to drive if his defender goes for the block) play significant minutes
in the 4th qtr.

i wouldn't be surprised to see pollard in there, but what would make
me happiest is for mgmt to figure out how to get gooden to focus out
there - we've got him for another 2-3 years (he'll be attractive as
trade bait in the third year of this contract) so i'd rather see him
get better than continually dump on him. but i think he'll be gone
either way - if he gets better we won't be able to afford to keep him
& it'll be easier to try draft a rookie and pay him less to manage the
cap.

"i can spell. i just can't type."

"barry" <toisan_boy@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I think some of the playing time late will depend on who we are playing as
Dan said. I put out the lineup that I believe we are most likely to see. I
do not see Coach Brown as being that likely to play Shannon Brown as a
rookie late in games when we now have Wesley unless Brown is really 6'4" and
that good a defender as a rookie (and there is always is big learning curve
on defense). Hell, I think Pavlovic or Jackson will be lucky to play any
significant minutes after a full season under Brown, though I would like to
see one emerge to give Lebron some rest. I think it is unlikely that we will
see Gooden at crunch time. I expect his numbers will drop significantly this
year with more playing time given to AV, Marshall, and Pollard.

Keith

On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 14:34:52 -0600, "Keith Jones" <kejones1@cox.net>
wrote:



with lebron, hughes and either marshall or Z on the floor, we'll have
enough offensive threats and ball handling to have the luxury of
playing a defensive stopper. and it's my take that coach brown will
play rookies if they can play defense - something that both rookies
are touted as being able to do.

"i can spell. i just can't type."

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Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: Starters and 4th quarter guys


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It is true that both are supposed to play defense. However, in the interview
following the draft, Shannon Brown said the hardest transition to make from
college to the pros is playing defense. Don't forget he is only 20. James is
also 20 and has played two years of pro ball without any college ball and
improved every area of his game offensively, yet still is not a very good
defender. I believe that is why we got Wesley, who is an experienced
defender and an offensive threat (unlike Snow or Jones) to finish games
until Brown is ready sometime down the road. Unless Brown is as big an
offensive threat as James, I doubt we will be seeing much of him at crunch
time but.......I could be wrong.

Keith

Keith Jones wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised to see Pollard and Marshall get offensive
defensive substitutions like AV and Z.

Pollard hustles. He's the one guy you always hated on the other team.

Keith Jones wrote:

I tend to agree, but that is one reason I liked the Wesley move. Unless
he aged overnight.

"Dan Hosek" <none@nowhere.not> wrote in message
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I think there is a good possibility this will be done if we are able with
timeouts or possesion changes.


I think that picking up Wesley and Pollard with only an MLE and remaining
under the cap may turn out to be pure genius. I do think that both these
guys wanted to come to a rising team to play with a superstar and
contribute. The fact that both guys were injured last year may have turned
other suitors off. If these guys stay healthy and contribute, I think it
gives us a much better team than we had last year. Plus these guys are both
tough willing to do the dirty work and help the team. They bring no baggage,
a positive work ethic and experience at almost no cost. And they can mentor
our younger players. I hope it is the bargain I think it is.

Keith

On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 01:13:17 GMT, Dan Hosek <none@nowhere.not> wrote:


brian windhorst's blog has a good article about wesley, and includes a
comment from wesley's previous coach attributing his fade at the end
of season to injury rather than fatigue. but no way he's going to play
30+ minutes a game this season unless brown and gibson both fall flat
on their faces and hughes gets hurt again.

"i can spell. i just can't type."