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Old 09-26-2006, 02:59 AM
Kristian M Zoerhoff Kristian M Zoerhoff is offline
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Anyone want to start speculating on Kenny's off-season moves?

We got outplayed. Still, I'd rather take it down to the last week of the season
than give up in May. We'll hope for more next year.

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Old 09-26-2006, 01:46 PM
Kristian M Zoerhoff Kristian M Zoerhoff is offline
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In article <1f4b3$45192c15$46e3aa91$29738@COMTECK.COM>,
jdieter@nospam.carlnet.org says...
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A bad second half done the Sox in, all they had to do was play .500 after the break to get in. From my perspective the bull pen, except for Jenks needs some major, major help. From Cliffy's collapse to Cott's batting practice pitches, to the Logan experiment and McCarthy doesn't fit the pen to who-knows-what-were-get from the mid season acquisitions McDougal, Riske & Thornton. With all that we said don't have a spec of middle relief and only 1 respectable setup man Thornton.


I agree, the 'pen was suspect all season. I think MacDougal will actually turn
out well over the long term, but McCarthy and Logan were simply overmatched at
the Major League level. Cotts has always been iffy, and I think he's just not
cut out for this level, either. It's all a shame, really.

I don't know what happened to Politte, and Hermanson doesn't look like he'll
ever be the same.

So, MacDougal, Thornton, Jenks. That leaves a lot of holes, and that's before
we address Contreras (how bad is the injury?) and Vasquez (who I think is
actually pretty good, but not quite good enough for this division).

And then there's what to do in center and left.

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Old 09-26-2006, 02:36 PM
Jeff Dieterle Jeff Dieterle is offline
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A bad second half done the Sox in, all they had to do was play .500 after
the break to get in. From my perspective the bull pen, except for Jenks
needs some major, major help. From Cliffy's collapse to Cott's batting
practice pitches, to the Logan experiment and McCarthy doesn't fit the pen
to who-knows-what-were-get from the mid season acquisitions McDougal, Riske
& Thornton. With all that we said don't have a spec of middle relief and
only 1 respectable setup man Thornton. The pens version of a hold all season
long was hoping we had a 3-4 run cushion so we could deplete the pen to take
a 1 run win. I can't blame the starting pitching or the hitting because they
will both hit their rough spots during 162 games, but except for a week or
so the pen was a rough spot all season...... look at the teams that got in,
swap pens with them and we'd be in and they would be typing this
disappointing post.

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Anyone want to start speculating on Kenny's off-season moves? We got outplayed. Still, I'd rather take it down to the last week of the season than give up in May. We'll hope for more next year. -- __o Kristian Zoerhoff _'\(,_ kristian.zoerhoff@gmail.com (_)/ (_)



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Old 09-26-2006, 03:48 PM
Jeff Dieterle Jeff Dieterle is offline
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Dougal is a still a little too wild for me, I don't have enough appendages
on my body to count how many times he was brought in with the game close and
tossed a lead-off walk. Isn't that why Seattle let him go? If there is a
sleeper in the pen for next year it may be Hermanson, he should go pretty
cheap. Not sure what KW has in mind but 8-9-1 has been terrible offensively
all year throw in the sub-par defense, including Mac when he plays for our 9
hole hitter, and something has to be done. I'd like to see us keep Pods as a
4th outfielder and go hard after Soriano (I know I'm dreaming) and platoon
Uribe and Cintron instead of Mac & Andersen. So from my pc that's a tall
order, rebuild the pen and sign the premier free agent available for the 07
season, but hey who thought 05 would turn out as it did.... it'll take some
bold moves if KW about serious in owning baseball in Chicago.


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In article <1f4b3$45192c15$46e3aa91$29738@COMTECK.COM>, jdieter@nospam.carlnet.org says...
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A bad second half done the Sox in, all they had to do was play .500 after the break to get in. From my perspective the bull pen, except for Jenks needs some major, major help. From Cliffy's collapse to Cott's batting practice pitches, to the Logan experiment and McCarthy doesn't fit the pen to who-knows-what-were-get from the mid season acquisitions McDougal, Riske & Thornton. With all that we said don't have a spec of middle relief and only 1 respectable setup man Thornton.
I agree, the 'pen was suspect all season. I think MacDougal will actually turn out well over the long term, but McCarthy and Logan were simply overmatched at the Major League level. Cotts has always been iffy, and I think he's just not cut out for this level, either. It's all a shame, really. I don't know what happened to Politte, and Hermanson doesn't look like he'll ever be the same. So, MacDougal, Thornton, Jenks. That leaves a lot of holes, and that's before we address Contreras (how bad is the injury?) and Vasquez (who I think is actually pretty good, but not quite good enough for this division). And then there's what to do in center and left. -- __o Kristian Zoerhoff _'\(,_ kristian.zoerhoff@gmail.com (_)/ (_)



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Old 09-27-2006, 10:28 AM
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Blame it all on Mariotti!
It was a half season lapse of morale problems.
How else do you go from well into first place before the AS break - to a
bunch of losers?

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Old 09-28-2006, 12:33 AM
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"T-Bone" <behyndblueeyes@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Blame it all on Mariotti! It was a half season lapse of morale problems. How else do you go from well into first place before the AS break - to a bunch of losers?

We were never well into first place this season.


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