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10-02-2006, 09:51 PM
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Baker was NOT the Cubs problem
I love all this venom towards Dusty Baker.
Dusty Baker was not the reason the Cubs didn't win the World Series. How many times have the Cubs fired "that bad old manager"? a zillion? Yup. At some point we have to get smart and see that it runs deeper than that. This is a money machine. It uses stupid Cub fans for paper and prints hundred dollar bills. This is so easy it fuckin hurts. DON'T GO TO THE DAMN GAMES! If the Cubs draw 800,000 fans next year, I GUARANTEE a winner the next year. Otherwise. Fire the manager, fire the pitching coach. Sign a superstar from two years ago, start singing in the fourth as a tribute to Ernie Banks passing. Who gives a shit. It's sucker bait. WAKE UP! Major 
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10-05-2006, 03:40 AM
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When Outfielders throw to the wrong base or over throw the cutoff man.
When Pitchers fail to cover 1st base on grounders to the right side. When Hitters miss the sign and runners get thrown out. When runners miss stop signs thrown up by the 3ed base coach and get thrown out.When your down by 5 runs and you get thrown out trying to steal third base. When the same runners get picked off base about as much as the W Flag is flown at Wrigley Field. When your fielders drop throws that would of been force outs if they had held on to the ball. Now these are errors in fundamentals and when they occur as often as Cub fans have witnessed the past two years, then the blame must be placed where it belongs on the Manager. Now you might say that Dusty did'nt make the errors and your right but, he allowed them to continue and he did nothing to correct the situation, he did'nt do his job. He failed to Manage. But, in this case our manager was just one of the Boy's and we continued to see the same mistakes. Fundamentals are the foundation, the building blocks os a winning team and the foundation was missing during Dusty's era. Dusty was hired to be a Manager. This team with a Manager and coach's that strived in correcting these error's could of won a lot more then 66 games. No it was not all Dusty's fault but, it started with him. Well like Leo said" Nice Guy's Finish Last".
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10-05-2006, 10:41 PM
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On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 23:40:00 -0400, "wolfer" <wolf76@nospam.cox.net>
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I agree, but how many managers are we going to fire before we look deeper and say what the heck is going on? What I mean is that this is about money. The Cubs didn't sign any big names because they were in their "collection cycle" the club oscillates on four year business cycles. they spend some money to bait the trap, that fills the park for four years or so before they have to do it again. If the team wins, or gets close thats great, but not essential. When the fuel runs out they simply do it again. Like their doing now. They will make a splash of some kind to renew the stupid fans and it wil get a little better for a couple of years, but four years from now we will be RIGHT BACK HERE. bank on it. btw: their worst nightmatre is the Cubs actually winning the World Series I think that would change this business model and they would sell. Major
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10-07-2006, 04:40 PM
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On 6 Oct 2006 20:46:01 -0700, mishajmo@hotmail.com wrote:
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So, you're saying that you'll go to the game no matter what they put on the field?
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10-08-2006, 07:34 AM
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<mishajmo@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1160192761.536619.21850@c28g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com... Quote:
My, the vitriol! 1. Actually, the cubs were considerably more competitive in the seventies 2. Tribune Company didn't own them in the seventies 3. Skyboxes, television revenue, and the neighborhood were TOTALLY different parts of the equation thirty years ago. Even so, let's follow your line of thinking anyway. So, attendance was poor in the seventies. So what happened? The team was sold!!!!! So yeah, the poor attendance made it a poor investment for Wrigley. Tribune turned it into a cash cow that makes money regardless of the record. That's exactly the point.
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10-09-2006, 02:35 AM
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Baker was NOT the Cubs problem
JayJay wrote: Quote:
How many times did the team finish first in the 70s? Quote:
Uh, your point? Quote:
You don't seem to be able to follow the discussion. Attendance was crap, the team did not improve. Quote:
Oh, now you want to give it a try. Quote:
The team was sold because P.K. Wrigley died. Quote:
The team was sold because PK Wrigley died. Quote:
The fans came back because the team started to compete. If the fans stopped coming--like they did in the 70s--would it matter more?
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