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Old 10-04-2006, 12:52 AM
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Is Hendry a lame duck? Do the Cubs have enough stability in the
front office to pull the trigger on hiring a manager?
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Old 10-04-2006, 01:47 AM
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Gary S. Simon wrote:
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Is Hendry a lame duck? Do the Cubs have enough stability in the front office to pull the trigger on hiring a manager?


Lame duck, possibly. Hiring a manager will be fine if there is not any
major corporate shakeups planned in the near future.


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Old 10-04-2006, 02:01 AM
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"Scott Stone" <skstone@rmisp.com> wrote in message
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Gary S. Simon wrote:
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Is Hendry a lame duck? Do the Cubs have enough stability in the front office to pull the trigger on hiring a manager?
Lame duck, possibly. Hiring a manager will be fine if there is not any major corporate shakeups planned in the near future.


I would see Hendry's situation as a bit of a problem area for a manager
considering the Cubs. He will be aware of the pressure on Hendry and the
ticking clock. Would he be able to get a 3-year contract if he wanted one?
(That means his contract would be longer than Hendry's). If he is given
one, and Hendry is fired after next season and a new gm is brought in, what
does that do to the manager's position? The new gm would almost certainly
want his own manager. Trying to put myself into a prospective manager's
position, it would seem to be a pretty shaky ship to board. However,
judging from what I read, there are a number of guys interested in the Cubs,
so maybe it's not a problem.


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Old 10-04-2006, 02:57 AM
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Claude wrote:
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"Scott Stone" <skstone@rmisp.com> wrote in message news:1159926538_7335@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
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Gary S. Simon wrote:
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Is Hendry a lame duck? Do the Cubs have enough stability in the frontoffice to pull the trigger on hiring a manager?
Lame duck, possibly. Hiring a manager will be fine if there is not anymajor corporate shakeups planned in the near future.
I would see Hendry's situation as a bit of a problem area for a manager considering the Cubs. He will be aware of the pressure on Hendry and the ticking clock. Would he be able to get a 3-year contract if he wanted one? (That means his contract would be longer than Hendry's). If he is given one, and Hendry is fired after next season and a new gm is brought in, what does that do to the manager's position? The new gm would almost certainly want his own manager. Trying to put myself into a prospective manager's position, it would seem to be a pretty shaky ship to board. However, judging from what I read, there are a number of guys interested in the Cubs, so maybe it's not a problem.


Probably a case of "I can't prove I can manage from my couch".


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Old 10-04-2006, 05:02 PM
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Gary S. Simon wrote:
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Is Hendry a lame duck? Do the Cubs have enough stability in the front office to pull the trigger on hiring a manager?


If Hendry is a lame duck, he will not hire a manager for himself.
He will either hire a guy the higher ups want - or he will just
search until he is replaced.

There are many scenarios. Here are a few.

Cubs plan to have a strong manager with a GM for an errand boy.

Hendry was an errand boy for MacPhail and will be an errand
boy for new CEO.

Hendry was an errand boy for MacPhail but will now be
allowed to really run the show.

The Cubs are looking for a new general manager and
just haven't decided on the right one yet.

Hendry was running the show before and will continue
to do so (and mangement is really stupid).

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Old 10-04-2006, 07:42 PM
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Gary S. Simon wrote:
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Is Hendry a lame duck?


If he isn't, he should be. I don't understand why they didn't fire
Hendry when they let Baker go. I've never thought Baker (or MacPhail,
FTM) was the problem. Hendry's been the problem and the weak link all
along, IMNSHO.
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Do the Cubs have enough stability in the front office to pull the trigger on hiring a manager?


They need to dump their GM and hire a new one before they even THINK
about hiring a new manager. It's stupid to hire a new manager, turn
around and fire the GM, and bring in a new GM that the new manager will
butt heads with.

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Old 10-04-2006, 08:45 PM
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Cory <onyxcge@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Gary S. Simon wrote:
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Is Hendry a lame duck?
If he isn't, he should be. I don't understand why they didn't fire Hendry when they let Baker go. I've never thought Baker (or MacPhail, FTM) was the problem. Hendry's been the problem and the weak link all along, IMNSHO.


Why? If your opinion is not so humble, then I assume you must have
substantial and numerous examples and rationales to back that up. Feel
free to include examples that specifically show why Baker and MacPhail
were not the problems. Also, you could point out why none of the
successes under Hendry's reign were not the result of his work and
knowledge.


G (I'm not implying that I agree or disagree with you, I'm just curious
as to what your reasoning is)

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Old 10-05-2006, 01:47 AM
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Am 4 Oct 2006, Cory schrieb:


Quote:
Gary S. Simon wrote:
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Is Hendry a lame duck?

If he isn't, he should be. I don't understand why they didn't fire Hendry when they let Baker go. I've never thought Baker (or MacPhail, FTM) was the problem. Hendry's been the problem and the weak link all along, IMNSHO.



We simply don't know what went on behind the scenes, or what the power
distribution was in the Cub front office. Ray has outlined a number
of plausible scenarios and there are still others. Unfortunately, we
have to read the wisps in the smokescreens and guess from them what's
really going on. It's a bit like Kremlinology.

I can understand why WGN and the Trib are useless in this regard.
They've canned a couple of big fish (Stone & Caray) and censored a
lowly beat reporter for straying outside the parameters of the
Official Line. On the other hand, the Sun Times & the other media
outlets could be doing a much better job. They don't seem to do much
digging. They might be afraid that they'll get cut off from the
informational tit if they poke around too much.



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Old 10-05-2006, 12:46 PM
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Hendry may nhave gotten stronger or weaker. We don't know.

If he was being micromanaged by McPhail and drug down by his hire Baker, he
might be in a better position now.
He also may already have been secretly fired or demoted and given a bonus to
find his replacement.


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