Tell me again ..Is the manager going to KEEP PITCHING TO ALBERT

10-07-2006, 01:59 AM

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If so ..I will double or triple my usual wagers. I won the first two
games..( lucky as hell to do so ) ..
I think the Cards can close it out with the " Soupster " We shall
see..

10-07-2006, 10:00 PM

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"After all is said and done - there's nothing more to say or do"
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If so ..I will double or triple my usual wagers. I won the first two games..( lucky as hell to do so ) .. I think the Cards can close it out with the " Soupster " We shall see..

Apparently so...
I'll take that o-fer with the DP to end the final threat.

Sometimes the situation dictates that you have to pitch to him. The trick is
to make good pitches and not just tee it up for him. If you make him put the
ball in play, even a hitter of Pujols' caliber makes outs 66.2% of the time.

If he had a pitcher pitch to him with 1 or 2 outs and 1B open, his head
belongs on a pike. In the situations today, you can't give him a free pass
with a walk so a single by the next guy is as damaging as a double off the
wall by the big guy.

10-09-2006, 03:32 AM

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K2 wrote:

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"After all is said and done - there's nothing more to say or do" <fastpitstops@aol.com> wrote in message news:1160186365.385040.197310@c28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...

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If so ..I will double or triple my usual wagers. I won the first two games..( lucky as hell to do so ) .. I think the Cards can close it out with the " Soupster " We shall see..

Apparently so... I'll take that o-fer with the DP to end the final threat. Sometimes the situation dictates that you have to pitch to him. The trick is to make good pitches and not just tee it up for him. If you make him put the ball in play, even a hitter of Pujols' caliber makes outs 66.2% of the time. If he had a pitcher pitch to him with 1 or 2 outs and 1B open, his head belongs on a pike. In the situations today, you can't give him a free pass with a walk so a single by the next guy is as damaging as a double off the wall by the big guy.

I'm sure everyone will forget that the Cards four-run rally tonight
started with a walk to Pujols. The first time he hits a home run in
the LCS, we'll be hearing "why does anybody ever pitch to him?" The
only damage he did in the two games in St. Louis was when he *wasn't*
pitched to.

10-09-2006, 04:04 AM

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On 8 Oct 2006 20:32:20 -0700, "Seapig" <seapig@altavista.com> wrote:

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I'm sure everyone will forget that the Cards four-run rally tonightstarted with a walk to Pujols. The first time he hits a home run inthe LCS, we'll be hearing "why does anybody ever pitch to him?" Theonly damage he did in the two games in St. Louis was when he *wasn't*pitched to.

Meredith hitting a batter when he was ahead in the count 0-2 ....
Branyan throwing the ball wide of home plate....

10-09-2006, 05:18 AM

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Hoover wrote:

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On 8 Oct 2006 20:32:20 -0700, "Seapig" <seapig@altavista.com> wrote:

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I'm sure everyone will forget that the Cards four-run rally tonightstarted with a walk to Pujols. The first time he hits a home run inthe LCS, we'll be hearing "why does anybody ever pitch to him?" Theonly damage he did in the two games in St. Louis was when he *wasn't*pitched to.

Meredith hitting a batter when he was ahead in the count 0-2 .... Branyan throwing the ball wide of home plate....

I'm not sure what your point is, but if Pujols doesn't walk leading off
that inning, there's a good chance that neither of those things ever
happen.

10-09-2006, 11:43 PM

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Seapig wrote:

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I'm sure everyone will forget that the Cards four-run rally tonight started with a walk to Pujols. The first time he hits a home run in the LCS, we'll be hearing "why does anybody ever pitch to him?" The only damage he did in the two games in St. Louis was when he *wasn't* pitched to.

Well, except for the 2 run home run in the first game and his RBI and
run scored (the run came while he was on base for the hit he got) in
Game 2; both of which were turning points and HUGE factors in the
Padres' first two losses. In fact, he's only walked once, which
obviously resulted in quite a mess last night for the Padres. However,
there are plenty of other factors that you can chalk up to in that
disaster of an inning Sunday night; Pujols just happened to be the
first thing that went wrong.

Of course, you do have a point. Pujols is a pretty damn big threat no
matter what. Sometimes it's much 'safer' to walk him, and sometimes
it's safer to pitch to him.
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10-10-2006, 02:15 AM

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doug wrote:

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Seapig wrote:

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I'm sure everyone will forget that the Cards four-run rally tonight started with a walk to Pujols. The first time he hits a home run in the LCS, we'll be hearing "why does anybody ever pitch to him?" The only damage he did in the two games in St. Louis was when he *wasn't* pitched to.

I said the only damage he did *in St.Louis* was when he wasn't pitched
to. K2 already did a good job of explaining why it wouldn't have made
sense to walk him in the first two games.

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In fact, he's only walked once, which obviously resulted in quite a mess last night for the Padres. However, there are plenty of other factors that you can chalk up to in that disaster of an inning Sunday night; Pujols just happened to be the first thing that went wrong.

And that's why everybody will forget about it - the stuff that happened
later was a lot more dramatic than the walk, but the inning wouldn't
have been any worse if Pujols had led off with a home run.

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Of course, you do have a point. Pujols is a pretty damn big threat no matter what. Sometimes it's much 'safer' to walk him, and sometimes it's safer to pitch to him.

I'm not arguing that there aren't plenty of times when walking him is
the right thing to do. I'm just getting tired of people (not only
here, media types also) acting like you should never pitch to the guy.

10-10-2006, 02:21 AM

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Seapig wrote:

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I said the only damage he did *in St.Louis* was when he wasn't pitched to. K2 already did a good job of explaining why it wouldn't have made sense to walk him in the first two games.

Damn! My bad; I missed that (it's been a long couple of days, and
apparently I just glossed over that part).

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I'm not arguing that there aren't plenty of times when walking him is the right thing to do. I'm just getting tired of people (not only here, media types also) acting like you should never pitch to the guy.

Yeah, Pujols is just damn good, and hindsight is always 20/20. If only
the offense would've been able to hit even a little better with runners
at scoring position, the Pujols factor would've been moot for most of
the games.
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