Would you do this trade? Aaron Rowand, Mike Constanza and J.A Happ or Gio
Gonzalez along with Joshua Outman to Colorado Rockies for Garrett Atkins?

Atkins was Chase Utleys team-mate in UCLA and looks to be an up and coming
3rd base superstar. I like his walks/k ratio and his k/ab ratio.

But if the phils could sign Amariz Ramirez, they would have similar
production.

Problem is, if the phils do sign a power hitting 3rd baseman, where does
Burell hit? 6th?

Hmmmmm..
TG

Rockies have two top 3B prospects with the potential of being stars...
Atkins and Ian Stewart. They are rather high on both of them, and word is
they might switch one of them to the OF. Don't think the Rockies are
willing to trade either of them.


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Gio

Burell would hit where he should...bench.

TonyG wrote:

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Hopefully he hits for another team or should I say strikes out looking for
another team

This past season (2006), Burrell ranks above league average (actually, above
for both NL and AL) for left fielders in just about all offensive categories
except batting average (only about .010 below LF league average). Using
Baseball Prospectus' "Equivilent Average", Burrell not only ranks "above
average", but "very good".

While Burrell's RISP numbers were down in 2006, that shouldn't be a concern
about future RISP performance since RISP numbers fluctuate year to year for
just about all players (only a very few rare superstar talents post
consistantly good RISP numbers year to year, like Manny Ramírez).

Burrell's OPS with RISP the past 5 seasons:
2002: .943
2003: .713
2004: .753
2005: 1.027
2006: .722

And for "Player X":
2002: .921
2003: .777
2004: .705
2005: .733
2006: .873

The primary reason for such fluctuation is there really aren't enough AB's
with RISP in a given season to give a stable or accurate correlation...
usually around 100-175 AB's (that's only around 4-6 weeks worth of total
AB's spread out over an entire season). The typical "small sample size".

For those curious as to who "Player X" is... it's Alfonso Soriano.



"Postal68" <Postal68NO@SPAMcomcast.net> wrote in message
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If Burrell could produce consistently throughout the year, at a rate which
would produce last year's numbers, then fine. The trouble is, he went in
the tank big time In August and September, when the rest of the team was
making its push and the chips were down. If you could guarantee we would
only see the April and May Pat Burrell, I'd be glad to bring him back in
2007. However, I never want to see the August-September Pat Burrell again,
ever.

On the subject of the original post, is there any reason to think the
Rockies are going to trade Atkins, let alone for a handful of minor
leaguers? Sure, I'd make the deal you propose, what Phillies fan wouldn't?
Now back to reality . . . . . . what are the deals we really have a chance
to make, or what are the free agents we have a real chance to sign?

----- Kurt Straub

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On Oct 8, 4:18 pm, "Kurt Straub" <jkurtstr...@comcast.net> wrote:


This makes no sense at all. Those games in April and MAy count too.
In fact they count the same as the one's in August. There was only one
game this year that didnt count.

No player is consistent throughout the year, there is tremendous month
to month variation for every player. That is because one month of
games is too small a sample size.

Also, not to make excuses, but isn't it obvious he was playing hurt the
last 2 months of the season?

Danny

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I actually thought that he was playing hurt during the first half of the
season with his bad foot. Didn't it flare up on him just before the season
started during spring training? He may have been hurt otherwise during
the second half also.

TG

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Not really, I was just thinking about who would be my first choice. Alex
Gordon for the Royals would be a similar or better talent, but is also
'untouchable'. Joshua Fields would be a realistic possibility as the White
Sox already have Crede playing 3rd base. Cleveland has 2 3rd base
prospects, but I dont' think either are available as they may move one to
the OF or DH.


Actually it's not as simple as it seems. Phils would be giving up 2
legitimate pitchers and a CF in exchange to improve an offense that is
already good. Still, Atkins would be a proven Major leaguer and the other
phils players are like 2 in the bush vs 1 in the hand. But those 2
pitching prospects are probably in the Phils top 10 prospects.
Tony

Huh? Burrell's August and September numbers (.860 & .874 OPS) were just
about in line with his seasonal numbers. He did struggle some in June,
batting .194 (although his run production wasn't that bad), but had a good
April (.300 BA, 1.013 OPS).

Utley, on the other hand, really struggled in August with an OPS almost 300
points lower than his seasonal OPS and more than 600 points lower than
July's. Not ragging on Utley, just pointing out that every player's season
has its hills and valleys. That's baseball.



"Kurt Straub" <jkurtstraub@comcast.net> wrote in message
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which
again,
wouldn't?