With Loney's performance in September and in tonight's game, maybe
Colletti won't do more than offer Nomar arbitration (which he would
likely turn down). Loney deserves to be the starter next year (and
for years to come), and I would hate for the Dodgers to spend many
millions on Nomar over multiple years (which is what it will take to
sign him), with his health (or lack of it) and the presence of a good
prospect who has had major league success.

Spend the money it would take to re-sign Nomar elsewhere.

Figure the Dodgers will be paying some of Odalis' contract, but not
all of it like this season. Gagne's contract is going away. Kent is
the only guy getting a significant pay raise, and not really all that
much by ML standards. If payroll stays the same, the Dodgers have the
money to go after a top starting pitcher with money for a middle
reliever or two left over.

Ima Pseudonym wrote:


There's still a place for Nomar at 3B. Betemit looked like no more than a platoon
guy, given his problems against lefties.

On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 21:19:20 -0700, MB <PoetUNoet@iwon.com> wrote:


Given Nomar's injury history, I'd still rather go with Betemit. He
may want to abandon switch hitting though - if the platoon
differential is higher for a switch hitter than is normal for a
player, then it's probably a mistake to switch hit (which is supposed
to reduce platoon differential, after all).

Ima Pseudonym wrote:

You are right but the sentiment in this town will be to bring Nomar
back, besides you know McCourts Boston fetish


Do you beg Maddux to stay or just be thankful for what you got?

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I think they should make a reasonable play for maddux. and I am
afraid you are probably right about nomar.


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Sam Monk wrote:

Nope - let Maddux walk. He's a 60 pitch-a-game guy, and as was shown
tonight, if a team is patient, he's going to be leaving the game early.
He's had a great career and his contribution is appreciated, but it's
time to move on - the Dodgers need the starters to get deeper into games
in the future.

Rich

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Nomar is one of my all time favorites, but you are right. Except given his
injury history Nomar may have to take another one year deal or 2 max. If he
is to be just a first baseman in the future, he is further limited. A top
contender may not want to risk going with Nomar at a key offensive position
unless thy have someone else who could effectively step in if he gets hurt.
(Say an outfielder who could move to 1st and be replaced by a strong
backup). If Nomar gets a multo year deal it might have to be with a bad team
that is desparate for some credibility like KC. Maybe Nomar could play the
outfield too.

Richard Benesh wrote:


Rich, I share your frustration regarding the difficult loss yesterday.
Obviously, Maddux didn't have his best stuff, but please remember that
he was 6-3 with a 3.30 ERA with the Dodgers in 12 starts, and he
averaged over 6 IP per start, even when factoring in the one rain-delay
where he flirted with a no-hitter before being pulled in Cincy. Also,
he average over 6 IP per start with the Cubs.

Maddux is definitely not a "60 pitch-a-game guy". He is very
economical with his picthes because he rarely walks batters, and
sometimes is in the 8th inning with 80 pitches. He is frequently near
the top in league leaders with fewest pitches per inning.

Consider the following:

1. Out of, roughly, 80 NL regular starting pitchers, Maddux was tied
for 18th with 210 IPs this season. That means he had more IPs than
rough 78% of NL starters. No, he's not in the top 3 or 4 in IPs like
he was for many years, but he is still goes deeper into games than
about three-quarters of NL starters.

2. Maddux issued barely over 1 walk per game.

3. Out of the 80 or so NL starters, Greg ranked 5th in fewest pitches
per IP (13.34).

I strongly believe that Greg would fare very well with a full season of
home starts at pitcher-friendly Chavez Ravine. He would probably be a
guy with an ERA around 3.50 for the season, over 200 IPs, and 16 to 18
wins with the Dodgers. That sounds like a solid third starter, even at
41. Why wouldn't you want that? Again, I understand your frustration
about Greg's performance yesterday, but if you consider the big
picture, Maddux is definitely a guy you want on the team, Rich.

--
Jolly Rogers

I agree, Nomar isn't a complete waste. when he's healthy he can hit the ball
well.
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