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Old 10-08-2006, 07:34 AM
Anthony Graybill Anthony Graybill is offline
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Detroits pitching stifles the muderers row of the Yankees, which agains show
that good pitching beats good hitting. Another BIG reason for the phils
to stock up on arms in every level. They need Jason Schmidt next year and
they will be good.
Tony


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Old 10-08-2006, 03:04 PM
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"TonyG" <agraybill71460@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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that good pitching beats good hitting. Another BIG reason for the phils to stock up on arms in every level. They need Jason Schmidt next year and they will be good. Tony


Probably not the greatest upset in history, but a satisfying ass-handing.
WTG Detroit.


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Old 10-08-2006, 03:06 PM
Calvin Jones & the 13th Apostle Calvin Jones & the 13th Apostle is offline
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Why not go after Zito, since they saved all that money by trading Abreu.




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Old 10-08-2006, 04:22 PM
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Calvin Jones & the 13th Apostle wrote:
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Why not go after Zito, since they saved all that money by trading Abreu.


Because Zito is overrated. The book him is easy -- wait him out, take
lots of pitches. Boras is going to ask for too much money and some
dumbass owner is going to pony up and be stuck with a dog of a contract.

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Old 10-08-2006, 05:21 PM
Calvin Jones & the 13th Apostle Calvin Jones & the 13th Apostle is offline
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I'll be overrated and take him numbers every year. The only pitcher that
might even come close to Zito is Hamels ... fine .. as a Mets fan .. i'll
gladly take Zito ... and let you continue missing the playoffs





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Why not go after Zito, since they saved all that money by trading Abreu.
Because Zito is overrated. The book him is easy -- wait him out, take lots of pitches. Boras is going to ask for too much money and some dumbass owner is going to pony up and be stuck with a dog of a contract. -greg



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Old 10-08-2006, 05:48 PM
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"Calvin Jones & the 13th Apostle" <Another_Thin_Line@yahoo.com> wrote in
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Why not go after Zito, since they saved all that money by trading Abreu.

Do you think Zito will command more money than Schmidt? Zito walked 99
last year and finished 10th in his league in ERA. Schmidt was only a little
better, finishing 8th in his league with 80 walks. They should both
command similar money. But with Hamels emergence and Myers finishing 15th
in ERA, phils only need one ace starter and they should be in much better
shape along with the arms that are coming through the system. They have 2
or 3 lefties that they are looking at in AA, so I'd say, take a long look at
Schmidt and signe Wolf for one incentive/performance laden year and then see
what develops in the farm.
Schmidt/Hamels/Myers would be a fair start.

TG
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Old 10-08-2006, 06:33 PM
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Why not go after Zito,

ZITO and SCHMIDT would not be good in CBP
they give up fly balls which here would be HOME RUNS

Ground Ball Pitchers would be good here
The Royals Zack Greinke would do good here
The guy I REALY WANT is Reds pitcher Aaron Harang
another good aquisition would be Marlins hurler Anibal Sanchez
ANY Pittsburgh Pirate pitcher would be better here than in Pitsburgh
Wes Obermeuller of the Brewers would be good

we could also get someone from JAPAN








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Old 10-08-2006, 07:26 PM
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I'd like to see Matsuzaka (and his gyroball) in a Phillies uniform, but it
looks like he's priced out of our budget ($20 mil posting fee and 4yrs/$50
mil contract, from what I've heard).

Speaking of Japan... while Gavin Floyd throws a killer curve, his fastball
is rather pedestrian. Obviously, he needs to add another pitch to his
arsenal so hitters can't wait out the curve and feast on the fastball.
Perhaps if he could add a "shuuto" to his repoitre... :-)




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Old 10-08-2006, 07:37 PM
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$20 million posting fee? What's that supposed to mean?





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I'd like to see Matsuzaka (and his gyroball) in a Phillies uniform, but it looks like he's priced out of our budget ($20 mil posting fee and 4yrs/$50 mil contract, from what I've heard). Speaking of Japan... while Gavin Floyd throws a killer curve, his fastball is rather pedestrian. Obviously, he needs to add another pitch to his arsenal so hitters can't wait out the curve and feast on the fastball. Perhaps if he could add a "shuuto" to his repoitre... :-) "TonyG" <agraybill71460@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:qS1Wg.11472$UG4.6170@newsread2.news.pas.earth link.net...
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Detroits pitching stifles the muderers row of the Yankees, which agains
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that good pitching beats good hitting. Another BIG reason for the phils to stock up on arms in every level. They need Jason Schmidt next year and they will be good. Tony



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Old 10-08-2006, 07:39 PM
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On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 13:21:21 -0400, "Calvin Jones & the 13th Apostle"
<Another_Thin_Line@yahoo.com> wrote:
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I'll be overrated and take him numbers every year. The only pitcher thatmight even come close to Zito is Hamels ... fine .. as a Mets fan .. i'llgladly take Zito ... and let you continue missing the playoffs

As a Phils fan I hope you take Zito and we get Schmidt. We'll see who
makes the playoffs next year if that happens. Zito's a good pitcher
but he is overrated, and Schmidt is at least a level above him.

I also think Schmidt signs for less then Zito, meaning we come out way
ahead, and can improve other positions with the savings.
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Why not go after Zito, since they saved all that money by trading Abreu.
Because Zito is overrated. The book him is easy -- wait him out, take lots of pitches. Boras is going to ask for too much money and some dumbass owner is going to pony up and be stuck with a dog of a contract. -greg



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