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Old 10-08-2006, 12:02 PM
camaro camaro is offline
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Default WHY do we want A-Rod?

I cannot understand why some members of this group are promoting a trade
for A-Rod. Over the years we have had a lot of fine season players who
tank in the playoffs. Why would we want to trade for another one?

The Braves need, as will many teams, some quality pitching in all parts of
the rotation.

Then too, there is the issue of payroll. Not even 198.000,000 could buy a
World Series ring!

Camaro
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Old 10-08-2006, 01:16 PM
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camaro wrote:
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I cannot understand why some members of this group are promoting a trade for A-Rod. Over the years we have had a lot of fine season players who tank in the playoffs. Why would we want to trade for another one?


when was the last time someone did that here?
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Old 10-08-2006, 06:32 PM
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"camaro" <sq10bo@yahoo.com> wrote ...
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I cannot understand why some members of this group are promoting a trade for A-Rod. Over the years we have had a lot of fine season players who tank in the playoffs. Why would we want to trade for another one?


Because he's still a good player, and not old. Chipper is getting old and
fragile. When we lose his bat this offense takes a huge hit. If you can lock
up that position for a few years with a good player, then you increase the
chances of even making the playoffs - which, as we all know, the Braves
failed to do this year.

You can't really predict playoff chokers in advance. Sheffield hit 320 in
the postseason before he came to Atlanta, and hit .100 for Atlanta. Then he
hit .290 for NY the last two years before hitting below .100 this year. JD
Drew had a decent-but-not-great 815 OPS in the postseason before posting a
..533 mark in his 5 postseason games with Atlanta. Randy Johnson went
5-1/1.52 ERA in the playoffs for Arizona in 2001, but has gone 2-8/4.41 in
all his other series.

Colin


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Old 10-08-2006, 06:45 PM
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"Colin William" <colintwilliam@hotmail.com> wrote in
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You can't really predict playoff chokers in advance. Sheffield hit 320 in the postseason before he came to Atlanta, and hit .100 for Atlanta. Then he hit .290 for NY the last two years before hitting below .100 this year. JD Drew had a decent-but-not-great 815 OPS in the postseason before posting a .533 mark in his 5 postseason games with Atlanta. Randy Johnson went 5-1/1.52 ERA in the playoffs for Arizona in 2001, but has gone 2-8/4.41 in all his other series. Colin

If it came to pass, would you play him at third base?
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Old 10-08-2006, 06:49 PM
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"camaro" <sq10bo@yahoo.com> wrote
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If it came to pass, would you play him at third base?


In the short term I'd be happy to play A-Rod back at shortstop and Chipper
at 3B, withg renteria traded for something useful.

That's in my dreamland where I don't have to do the payroll math, of course.

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Old 10-08-2006, 07:09 PM
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On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 14:32:16 -0400, Colin William wrote:
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You can't really predict playoff chokers in advance. Sheffield hit 320 in the postseason before he came to Atlanta, and hit .100 for Atlanta. Then he hit .290 for NY the last two years before hitting below .100 this year. JD Drew had a decent-but-not-great 815 OPS in the postseason before posting a .533 mark in his 5 postseason games with Atlanta. Randy Johnson went 5-1/1.52 ERA in the playoffs for Arizona in 2001, but has gone 2-8/4.41 in all his other series.


If I'm not mistaken, didn't A-Rod have good playoff numbers at Seattle?
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Old 10-08-2006, 07:25 PM
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"Tarkus" <karnevil9@atlantabraves.net> wrote
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You can't really predict playoff chokers in advance. Sheffield hit 320 in the postseason before he came to Atlanta, and hit .100 for Atlanta. Then he hit .290 for NY the last two years before hitting below .100 this year. JD Drew had a decent-but-not-great 815 OPS in the postseason before posting a .533 mark in his 5 postseason games with Atlanta. Randy Johnson went 5-1/1.52 ERA in the playoffs for Arizona in 2001, but has gone 2-8/4.41 in all his other series. If I'm not mistaken, didn't A-Rod have good playoff numbers at Seattle?


Indeed: 340/375/566.

A number of announcers have bandied about the arbitrary-endpoint stat of
A-Rod's performance going back to the last three games of the ALCS loss to
Boston (they don't count the first of the four straight losses because A-Rod
had a two-run homer without which the Yankees don't even go to extra
innings). So year, A-Rod has hit like crap in the 40-some PA since that
arbitrary point. However, his career postseason line prior to that point was
a cumulative 355/406/634 in just over 100 PA, numbers they decline to
mention.

Colin


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Old 10-08-2006, 07:31 PM
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On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 15:25:52 -0400, Colin William wrote:
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"Tarkus" <karnevil9@atlantabraves.net> wrote
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You can't really predict playoff chokers in advance. Sheffield hit 320 in the postseason before he came to Atlanta, and hit .100 for Atlanta. Then he hit .290 for NY the last two years before hitting below .100 this year. JD Drew had a decent-but-not-great 815 OPS in the postseason before posting a .533 mark in his 5 postseason games with Atlanta. Randy Johnson went 5-1/1.52 ERA in the playoffs for Arizona in 2001, but has gone 2-8/4.41 in all his other series. If I'm not mistaken, didn't A-Rod have good playoff numbers at Seattle?
Indeed: 340/375/566.


I would imagine he'd have less pressure in Atlanta than in New York, too.
I'd take him. Obviously. Maybe he could even break Hank's record as a
Brave.
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Old 10-08-2006, 11:54 PM
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In article <45-dnWQEqcOFZ7XYnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@giganews.com>, ziggy1967
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camaro wrote:
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I cannot understand why some members of this group are promoting a trade for A-Rod. Over the years we have had a lot of fine season players who tank in the playoffs. Why would we want to trade for another one?
when was the last time someone did that here? <crickets>


What? Someone (Dr. Dick?) brought up the trade during the weekend.

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Old 10-09-2006, 12:35 PM
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Dale Hicks wrote:
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In article <45-dnWQEqcOFZ7XYnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@giganews.com>, ziggy1967 @gmail.com says...
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camaro wrote:
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I cannot understand why some members of this group are promoting a trade for A-Rod. Over the years we have had a lot of fine season players who tank in the playoffs. Why would we want to trade for another one?
when was the last time someone did that here? <crickets>
What? Someone (Dr. Dick?) brought up the trade during the weekend.


ah. i suppose it helps if i read every thread.

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