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Old 10-09-2006, 03:22 AM
Barb =^..^= Barb =^..^= is offline
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It`s an awful shame they couldn`t have shown how well they did play all
year.
Hopefully they`ll get rid of the dead wood and keep what`s good about a
very good team.
Bochy`s time is over.
God bless you all and see you in the spring.


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Old 10-09-2006, 05:28 AM
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On Oct 8, 8:22*pm, Barb...@webtv.net (Barb =^..^=) wrote:
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It`s an awful shame they couldn`t have shown how well they did play all year. Hopefully they`ll get rid of the dead wood and keep what`s good about a very good team. Bochy`s time is over. God bless you all and see you in the spring. Barb =^..^=


They were barely over.500 in a crappy Division. They hardly played
well all year.

They do need to get rid of the deadwood, starting with Giles.

You're right, Bochy's time is done. He and Towers need to go and now.

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Old 10-09-2006, 06:21 AM
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JKlompas wrote:
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On Oct 8, 8:22?pm, Barb...@webtv.net (Barb =^..^=) wrote:
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It`s an awful shame they couldn`t have shown how well they did play all year. Hopefully they`ll get rid of the dead wood and keep what`s good about a very good team. Bochy`s time is over. God bless you all and see you in the spring. Barb =^..^=
They were barely over.500 in a crappy Division. They hardly played well all year. They do need to get rid of the deadwood, starting with Giles. You're right, Bochy's time is done. He and Towers need to go and now.


Contrary to popular belief & the spin of Towers, pitching does not win
games. It's very important & will keep you in the game, but if you
don't have hitters with power you are not going very far. The last 2
seasons have been crystal clear proof of this. When you look at our
line up, there is not one batter the opposing team would ever consider
intentionally walking. We have no one that makes the other team's
pitchers worry. Until Towers, Moore & whoever else has input decide to
pony up some bucks to bring us a guy who can hit with power, we will be
destined to be a scrappy mid-market team that can sometimes sneak into
the first round of the playoffs.

I'll still be here next year rooting for our team, but it's pretty
unrealistic to expect a different result until we try something
different.

It will be a real crime to squander Hoffy, Peavs & the rest of this
pitching staff for the next few years by not bringing in some offensive
help, but you know that's exactly what is going to happen.

Go Pads !

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Old 10-09-2006, 04:25 PM
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hmmm, the top four power teams didn't even make the playoffs. In fact
7 of the top 10 didn't. It's all about pitching and defense. The Pads
were 23rd and the Dodgers 27th in HRs. It would be nice to have more
power, in fact I believe they need it, but it is definitely pitching
first. 6 of the top 10 pitching staffs made the playoffs (best era).

Dano


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JKlompas wrote:
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On Oct 8, 8:22?pm, Barb...@webtv.net (Barb =^..^=) wrote:
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It`s an awful shame they couldn`t have shown how well they did play all year. Hopefully they`ll get rid of the dead wood and keep what`s good about a very good team. Bochy`s time is over. God bless you all and see you in the spring. Barb =^..^=
They were barely over.500 in a crappy Division. They hardly played well all year. They do need to get rid of the deadwood, starting with Giles. You're right, Bochy's time is done. He and Towers need to go and now.
Contrary to popular belief & the spin of Towers, pitching does not win games. It's very important & will keep you in the game, but if you don't have hitters with power you are not going very far. The last 2 seasons have been crystal clear proof of this. When you look at our line up, there is not one batter the opposing team would ever consider intentionally walking. We have no one that makes the other team's pitchers worry. Until Towers, Moore & whoever else has input decide to pony up some bucks to bring us a guy who can hit with power, we will be destined to be a scrappy mid-market team that can sometimes sneak into the first round of the playoffs. I'll still be here next year rooting for our team, but it's pretty unrealistic to expect a different result until we try something different. It will be a real crime to squander Hoffy, Peavs & the rest of this pitching staff for the next few years by not bringing in some offensive help, but you know that's exactly what is going to happen. Go Pads !


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Old 10-09-2006, 05:54 PM
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Oh, come on, Dano! Don't let facts get in the way of a good gripe.
ESPN shows home runs, darn it, so that's all that is important.

It was nice of our "weak" division to send two teams to the playoffs.
While not satisfied with the results, I'd consider a projected second
place and fourth place team in a sub-.500 division (by many rankings
this year, the Giants were to be the sole +.500 team in the division,
then Pads, Snakes, Dogs, and Corks) to make the playoffs in the most
competitive NL division a small success.

Good luck next year and hopefully we can finish one-two again and maybe
keep the LCS on the Left Coast.

Disgruntled Dodger Die-hard Don

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hmmm, the top four power teams didn't even make the playoffs. In fact 7 of the top 10 didn't. It's all about pitching and defense. The Pads were 23rd and the Dodgers 27th in HRs. It would be nice to have more power, in fact I believe they need it, but it is definitely pitching first. 6 of the top 10 pitching staffs made the playoffs (best era). Dano


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Old 10-09-2006, 06:06 PM
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Dano wrote:
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hmmm, the top four power teams didn't even make the playoffs. In fact 7 of the top 10 didn't. It's all about pitching and defense. The Pads were 23rd and the Dodgers 27th in HRs. It would be nice to have more power, in fact I believe they need it, but it is definitely pitching first. 6 of the top 10 pitching staffs made the playoffs (best era). Dano


I agree pitching is vital to success, but unlike football, where the
defense can actually score points, it's not enough by itself.

In a totally subjective, unscientific manner, I added the total HRs of
the top 5 hitters from each of the 8 teams that made the playoffs this
year. Only the Pads & Dodgers totals were below 110: Pads - 97, LA -
87. The Twinkies were next lowest with 112 & from there on it goes
from 121 for the A's to 142 for the Mets.

I'm not saying these stats are some new insight or anything, but you
just can't expect any pitching staff to hold teams in the playoffs to
one or no runs every game & with our banjo hitting squad, that's what
it would take to win.

I still love these guys, I just wish we had a Big Hurt or a Pujols to
complete the team & as long as the ownership tries to squeak by on the
cheap I will continue to bitch about it.

Go Pads !

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Old 10-09-2006, 06:56 PM
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swillabrew,

I agree with you. We do need more power. I was disgusted we didn't do
anything about third base before the season started and then try and
blow smoke up our... by signing Vinnie. I thought Piazza was a great
pickup for the price, although I wouldn't have believed he would have
been this productive. Nady would a been a ggod fit for power if he
would have been a better club house guy. I am concluding this by how
many teams he was on this year alone. With the little money we spend I
really don't have a clue what the answer is.

Clutch hitting was even more of a problem than power, but we need more
power!

Take care.

Dano


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Dano wrote:
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hmmm, the top four power teams didn't even make the playoffs. In fact 7 of the top 10 didn't. It's all about pitching and defense. The Pads were 23rd and the Dodgers 27th in HRs. It would be nice to have more power, in fact I believe they need it, but it is definitely pitching first. 6 of the top 10 pitching staffs made the playoffs (best era). Dano
I agree pitching is vital to success, but unlike football, where the defense can actually score points, it's not enough by itself. In a totally subjective, unscientific manner, I added the total HRs of the top 5 hitters from each of the 8 teams that made the playoffs this year. Only the Pads & Dodgers totals were below 110: Pads - 97, LA - 87. The Twinkies were next lowest with 112 & from there on it goes from 121 for the A's to 142 for the Mets. I'm not saying these stats are some new insight or anything, but you just can't expect any pitching staff to hold teams in the playoffs to one or no runs every game & with our banjo hitting squad, that's what it would take to win. I still love these guys, I just wish we had a Big Hurt or a Pujols to complete the team & as long as the ownership tries to squeak by on the cheap I will continue to bitch about it. Go Pads !


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Old 10-09-2006, 07:15 PM
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You can have strong pitching but you also gotta have some reliable offense.

I can't recall any team winning a game with a goose egg on the scoreboard.
I've been around since the Phillies and Athletics were both in Philadelphia.

Frank
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Dano wrote:
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hmmm, the top four power teams didn't even make the playoffs. In fact 7 of the top 10 didn't. It's all about pitching and defense. The Pads were 23rd and the Dodgers 27th in HRs. It would be nice to have more power, in fact I believe they need it, but it is definitely pitching first. 6 of the top 10 pitching staffs made the playoffs (best era). Dano
I agree pitching is vital to success, but unlike football, where the defense can actually score points, it's not enough by itself. In a totally subjective, unscientific manner, I added the total HRs of the top 5 hitters from each of the 8 teams that made the playoffs this year. Only the Pads & Dodgers totals were below 110: Pads - 97, LA - 87. The Twinkies were next lowest with 112 & from there on it goes from 121 for the A's to 142 for the Mets. I'm not saying these stats are some new insight or anything, but you just can't expect any pitching staff to hold teams in the playoffs to one or no runs every game & with our banjo hitting squad, that's what it would take to win. I still love these guys, I just wish we had a Big Hurt or a Pujols to complete the team & as long as the ownership tries to squeak by on the cheap I will continue to bitch about it. Go Pads !



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Old 10-09-2006, 09:38 PM
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Dano wrote:
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swillabrew, I agree with you. We do need more power. I was disgusted we didn't do anything about third base before the season started and then try and blow smoke up our... by signing Vinnie. I thought Piazza was a great pickup for the price, although I wouldn't have believed he would have been this productive. Nady would a been a ggod fit for power if he would have been a better club house guy. I am concluding this by how many teams he was on this year alone. With the little money we spend I really don't have a clue what the answer is.


Yeah, Piazza was a pleasant surprise for me as I thought he was just
coming here to pick up chicks up the beach. For him to tie Cameron
with 22 dingers & only finish 2 short of tying Gonzo for the team lead
was a real bonus.

Finding decent power hitters is fairly tough, finding one who will sign
the SD Discount is probably not possible.

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Clutch hitting was even more of a problem than power, but we need more power!


Very true. If we even had a bunch of guys that could hit over .250 so
we could reasonably expect to string together enough hits in a inning
to score a few runs that would be a plus. As we stand now, it's just
frustrating to know that our chances of coming back from a 3 or 4 run
deficit just aren't very good.

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Take care.


You, too.

Go Pads !
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Dano wrote:
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hmmm, the top four power teams didn't even make the playoffs. In fact 7 of the top 10 didn't. It's all about pitching and defense. The Pads were 23rd and the Dodgers 27th in HRs. It would be nice to have more power, in fact I believe they need it, but it is definitely pitching first. 6 of the top 10 pitching staffs made the playoffs (best era). Dano
I agree pitching is vital to success, but unlike football, where the defense can actually score points, it's not enough by itself. In a totally subjective, unscientific manner, I added the total HRs of the top 5 hitters from each of the 8 teams that made the playoffs this year. Only the Pads & Dodgers totals were below 110: Pads - 97, LA - 87. The Twinkies were next lowest with 112 & from there on it goes from 121 for the A's to 142 for the Mets. I'm not saying these stats are some new insight or anything, but you just can't expect any pitching staff to hold teams in the playoffs to one or no runs every game & with our banjo hitting squad, that's what it would take to win. I still love these guys, I just wish we had a Big Hurt or a Pujols to complete the team & as long as the ownership tries to squeak by on the cheap I will continue to bitch about it. Go Pads !


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Old 10-09-2006, 10:47 PM
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> Yeah, Piazza was a pleasant surprise for me as I thought he was just
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That explains the lack of luck this summer at Mission Beach. And I
thought it was my beer gut that killed the mojo.

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