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Old 10-10-2006, 04:38 PM
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Draper on sfgiants.com: "Bonds didn't like owner Peter Magowan's
statement that he wouldn't be the team's centerpiece in 2007. Too bad.
Bonds needs to be less selfish and greedy and help the team be a viable
contender. That would boost his image enormously. He needs the Giants
more than they need him".

Not re-signing him looks better all the time. I think they should offer
him $8M - $10M and if he scoffs, let him walk. He's too much of a risk
at $18M I'd rather see 2 $9M dollar players in the lineup for the
money anyway. Better balance. No matter how much Bonds works out this
winter, he'll still have no cartilidge in his knees. And personally,
I'm really tired of hearing him say, "I'm tired". I'd rather watch a
good, young, balanced lineup with good, if not great, pitching than
watch Bonds chase the HR record.

Draper's other comments: Rags will never be a manager. (good) and Feliz
will definately be back. (UGH!!).

-Pat

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Old 10-10-2006, 06:18 PM
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On 10 Oct 2006 09:38:53 -0700, "pdillon438@yahoo.com"
<pdillon438@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Draper on sfgiants.com: "Bonds didn't like owner Peter Magowan'sstatement that he wouldn't be the team's centerpiece in 2007. Too bad.Bonds needs to be less selfish and greedy and help the team be a viablecontender. That would boost his image enormously. He needs the Giantsmore than they need him".Not re-signing him looks better all the time. I think they should offerhim $8M - $10M


$8-10M is too much for a part-time player when you could get a good
pitcher for that much money (at least if you don't give the money to Matt
Morris).
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Old 10-10-2006, 06:40 PM
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"Greg Lentz" <nodamnspam@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
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On 10 Oct 2006 09:38:53 -0700, "pdillon438@yahoo.com" <pdillon438@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Draper on sfgiants.com: "Bonds didn't like owner Peter Magowan'sstatement that he wouldn't be the team's centerpiece in 2007. Too bad.Bonds needs to be less selfish and greedy and help the team be a viablecontender. That would boost his image enormously. He needs the Giantsmore than they need him".Not re-signing him looks better all the time. I think they should offerhim $8M - $10M
$8-10M is too much for a part-time player when you could get a good pitcher for that much money (at least if you don't give the money to Matt Morris). -- Greg Lentz


Being the odds of the Giants winning the WS is so low for next year, at
least
if we have Barry, there will be additional reason to watch.


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Old 10-10-2006, 09:29 PM
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pdillon438@yahoo.com wrote:
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Draper on sfgiants.com: "Bonds didn't like owner Peter Magowan's statement that he wouldn't be the team's centerpiece in 2007.


Who else would the centerpiece be? Pedro? Barry is the man on that team.

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Old 10-10-2006, 10:18 PM
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pdillon438@yahoo.com wrote:
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Draper on sfgiants.com: "Bonds didn't like owner Peter Magowan's statement that he wouldn't be the team's centerpiece in 2007. Too bad. Bonds needs to be less selfish and greedy and help the team be a viable contender. That would boost his image enormously. He needs the Giants more than they need him".


He doesn't "need" to. You may wish he was more team friendly, but at his
age, he can pretty much tell them to stuff it. They've made mucho $ from
having him on the team and he doesn't owe them anything.
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Not re-signing him looks better all the time. I think they should offer him $8M - $10M and if he scoffs, let him walk. He's too much of a risk at $18M I'd rather see 2 $9M dollar players in the lineup for the money anyway.


Or better yet, 18 Marvin Benards at $1 million each!
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Better balance. No matter how much Bonds works out this winter, he'll still have no cartilidge in his knees. And personally, I'm really tired of hearing him say, "I'm tired". I'd rather watch a good, young, balanced lineup with good, if not great, pitching than watch Bonds chase the HR record.


Me too. That ain't gonna happen with BS in charge.
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Old 10-10-2006, 10:24 PM
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<pdillon438@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Draper on sfgiants.com: "Bonds didn't like owner Peter Magowan's statement that he wouldn't be the team's centerpiece in 2007. Too bad. Bonds needs to be less selfish and greedy and help the team be a

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contender. That would boost his image enormously.


Don't kid yourself. Nothing he does can boost his image enormously. He
can donate $10 million dollars to charity (not that he would) and it
won't boost his image enormously.
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Not re-signing him looks better all the time. I think they should

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him $8M - $10M and if he scoffs, let him walk. He's too much of a risk at $18M


Don't worry. There's not a chance he's getting $18M.
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Draper's other comments: Rags will never be a manager.


Probably not in the near future, but I wouldn't say never.


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Old 10-10-2006, 10:36 PM
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pdillon438@yahoo.com wrote:
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Draper on sfgiants.com: "Bonds didn't like owner Peter Magowan's statement that he wouldn't be the team's centerpiece in 2007. Too bad. Bonds needs to be less selfish and greedy and help the team be a viable contender. That would boost his image enormously. He needs the Giants more than they need him". Not re-signing him looks better all the time. I think they should offer him $8M - $10M and if he scoffs, let him walk. He's too much of a risk at $18M I'd rather see 2 $9M dollar players in the lineup for the money anyway. Better balance. No matter how much Bonds works out this winter, he'll still have no cartilidge in his knees. And personally, I'm really tired of hearing him say, "I'm tired". I'd rather watch a good, young, balanced lineup with good, if not great, pitching than watch Bonds chase the HR record. Draper's other comments: Rags will never be a manager. (good) and Feliz will definately be back. (UGH!!). -Pat


I hear what you are saying re: good, young, balanced lineup. I'd
really like to see that too. In fact, here's the lineup I'm hoping for
next year:

C: V. Martinez
1B: Pujols
2B: Utley
3B: Wright
SS: A-Rod (the grizzled vet of the lineup)
LF: Cabrera
CF: Beltran
RF: Willy Mo (hey, someone has to bat eighth)

I figure the Giants fielding this lineup next year is just as likely as
Sabean putting together any other lineup that could be described as
"good, young and balanced", even viewed through the rosiest-colored
glasses. So as long as we are hitting the hallucinogens, why not drop
a google-dose?

Meanwhile, back in the real world, the Giants are going to suck next
year and are not going to bring in anyone better suited than Bonds
(part time player or no) to be the centerpiece of the team, since I
don't see Sabean making a serious run at Soriano. This year's FA crop
is weak after Soriano, so why not pay Bonds the $15 million or whatever
for a final year, put some butts in the seats, and work on rebuilding
during next season and off-season?

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Old 10-11-2006, 12:19 AM
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"Dobbs Redemption" <regalia@gmail.com> wrote in
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Meanwhile, back in the real world, the Giants are going to suck next year and are not going to bring in anyone better suited than Bonds (part time player or no) to be the centerpiece of the team, since I don't see Sabean making a serious run at Soriano. This year's FA crop is weak after Soriano, so why not pay Bonds the $15 million or whatever for a final year, put some butts in the seats, and work on rebuilding during next season and off-season?


That's my take on it exactly. There is no magic fix in this year's FA crop,
the Giants have been celebrating history for years now, and who is going to
pay to come watch a team led by Feliz, Linden, and Ellison? Sign Bonds,
make the year of the All Star game in SF a little more interesting, give
people at least SOME reason to come to the park, and watch Barry chase the
record.
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Old 10-11-2006, 01:11 AM
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On 11 Oct 2006 00:19:53 GMT, elaich <a@b.c> wrote:
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"Dobbs Redemption" <regalia@gmail.com> wrote innews:1160519770.590262.25640@m7g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com:
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Meanwhile, back in the real world, the Giants are going to suck next year and are not going to bring in anyone better suited than Bonds (part time player or no) to be the centerpiece of the team, since I don't see Sabean making a serious run at Soriano. This year's FA crop is weak after Soriano, so why not pay Bonds the $15 million or whatever for a final year, put some butts in the seats, and work on rebuilding during next season and off-season?
That's my take on it exactly. There is no magic fix in this year's FA crop,the Giants have been celebrating history for years now, and who is going topay to come watch a team led by Feliz, Linden, and Ellison? Sign Bonds,make the year of the All Star game in SF a little more interesting, givepeople at least SOME reason to come to the park, and watch Barry chase therecord.


And compare that with the negative draw of having Bonds close in on
the record in some other uniform.
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Old 10-11-2006, 01:45 AM
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In article <1160498333.548175.263210@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups. com>,
"pdillon438@yahoo.com" <pdillon438@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Draper on sfgiants.com: "Bonds didn't like owner Peter Magowan's statement that he wouldn't be the team's centerpiece in 2007. Too bad. Bonds needs to be less selfish and greedy and help the team be a viable contender. That would boost his image enormously. He needs the Giants more than they need him". Not re-signing him looks better all the time. I think they should offer him $8M - $10M and if he scoffs, let him walk. He's too much of a risk at $18M I'd rather see 2 $9M dollar players in the lineup for the money anyway.


That's sounding suspiciously like Buzzie Bavasi's comment when he let
Nolan Ryan leave as a free agent, that he could easily get 2 8-7
pitchers to replace Ryan.

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