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Old 10-11-2006, 03:26 PM
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:46:47 GMT, "Steve M. Mann"
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I don't think this has been mentioned yet...http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs....0017/1071/rss08


Must've been Chambliss fault that the offense tanked. If KGS gets the
job, then we know who the CF and #3 spot will likely be.

Just as significant is they are going to hire a pitching coach. This
is a real positive for me.

Hume and Berry both survived. I thought both would be gone.

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Old 10-11-2006, 03:29 PM
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 11:57:39 -0400, "Bob Braun"
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"Steve M. Mann" <rockermann@LOOSEITsteve-mann.com> wrote in messagenews:Hl8Xg.9317$F7.4212@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
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I don't think this has been mentioned yet... http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs....0017/1071/rss08
I like Chambliss, but I think that was a necessary change.


I thought earlier in the season that the team approach to the plate
had improved immensely. We were seeing a boatload of pitches and
getting into people's pens, and both Kearns and EE looked to have
improved approaches at the plate.

Why do you think Chambliss needed to go, just been there too long or
something else?

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Old 10-11-2006, 03:46 PM
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I don't think this has been mentioned yet...

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs....0017/1071/rss08

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Old 10-11-2006, 03:57 PM
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"Steve M. Mann" <rockermann@LOOSEITsteve-mann.com> wrote in message
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I don't think this has been mentioned yet... http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs....0017/1071/rss08


I like Chambliss, but I think that was a necessary change.


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Old 10-11-2006, 04:11 PM
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"JustTom" <tom@nomail.please> wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 11:57:39 -0400, "Bob Braun" <oxsports@hotandsunnymail.com> wrote:
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"Steve M. Mann" <rockermann@LOOSEITsteve-mann.com> wrote in messagenews:Hl8Xg.9317$F7.4212@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
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I don't think this has been mentioned yet... http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs....0017/1071/rss08
I like Chambliss, but I think that was a necessary change.
I thought earlier in the season that the team approach to the plate had improved immensely. We were seeing a boatload of pitches and getting into people's pens, and both Kearns and EE looked to have improved approaches at the plate. Why do you think Chambliss needed to go, just been there too long or something else?


I thought their hitting approach improved early on as well. I would like to
have seen Chambliss develop a hitter or two. Good hitting coaches cannot
overreact when a guy throws up an 0-12. But there is nothing wrong with
some fine tuning once in awhile. Over the course of 162, a hitter can fall
into some bad habits.

I'm not saying Chambliss didn't do those things, I just don't see a helluva
lot of evidence of it. So I think it was probably time for a change. I
think Hume should have joined him.


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Old 10-11-2006, 04:53 PM
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JustTom wrote:
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Must've been Chambliss fault that the offense tanked. If KGS gets the job, then we know who the CF and #3 spot will likely be.


Just as likely it would be the opposite. Griffey SR should be able to
recognize that his son can't get it done in CF and is as likely as
anybody to get this through to Junior. SR can smack JR around a bit and
still get away with it.

There's nothing wrong with Griffey batting third.....against righties.
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Just as significant is they are going to hire a pitching coach. This is a real positive for me.


Listening to WLW this morning, the answer is that the Reds are looking
for both a hitting coach and a pitching coach.
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Hume and Berry both survived. I thought both would be gone.


If Piniella's not going to NY to manage, and it looks like he ain't,
he's available as hitting instructor.

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Old 10-11-2006, 04:54 PM
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On 11 Oct 2006 09:53:49 -0700, thomas@meiwausa.com wrote:
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JustTom wrote:
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Must've been Chambliss fault that the offense tanked. If KGS gets the job, then we know who the CF and #3 spot will likely be.
Just as likely it would be the opposite. Griffey SR should be able torecognize that his son can't get it done in CF and is as likely asanybody to get this through to Junior. SR can smack JR around a bit andstill get away with it. There's nothing wrong with Griffey batting third.....against righties.
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Just as significant is they are going to hire a pitching coach. This is a real positive for me.
Listening to WLW this morning, the answer is that the Reds are lookingfor both a hitting coach and a pitching coach.
Quote:
Hume and Berry both survived. I thought both would be gone.
If Piniella's not going to NY to manage, and it looks like he ain't,he's available as hitting instructor.


I don't care what job he gets, as long as it gets him out of the
booth. He sounds like a dundering idjit on the broadcasts.


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Old 10-11-2006, 05:08 PM
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<thomas@meiwausa.com> wrote in message
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If Piniella's not going to NY to manage, and it looks like he ain't, he's available as hitting instructor.


IU understand the fascination, but I simply can't imagine why Lou Piniella
would WANT to come to Cincy in anything more than a full manager's position
working for a GM and an owner who will give him tremendous leeway.

Sure Lou won a series here and the owner seems to talk the same language,
but ....
Lou had some less than kind things to say about Junior when Junior started
to get hurt.
There is NOTHING left of the team or the organization that was here when Lou
was around. I guess Billy Hatcher as one of the coaches null and voids, that
statement from being entirely true, but...well, that's the only linkage I
can see.
He's not going to come to town to play patty-cake. If Piniella is around it
means he's waiting to take over while the make Narron the fall guy for this
year's (meaning 2007) failures. If this management team is already thinking
that way, we might as well all just start rooting for the cardinals.

dfs


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Old 10-11-2006, 05:17 PM
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"David Short" <David.no.Short@Wright.spam.Edu.please> wrote in message
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<thomas@meiwausa.com> wrote in message
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If Piniella's not going to NY to manage, and it looks like he ain't, he's available as hitting instructor.
IU understand the fascination, but I simply can't imagine why Lou Piniella would WANT to come to Cincy in anything more than a full manager's position working for a GM and an owner who will give him tremendous leeway. Sure Lou won a series here and the owner seems to talk the same language, but .... Lou had some less than kind things to say about Junior when Junior started to get hurt. There is NOTHING left of the team or the organization that was here when Lou was around. I guess Billy Hatcher as one of the coaches null and voids, that statement from being entirely true, but...well, that's the only linkage I can see. He's not going to come to town to play patty-cake. If Piniella is around it means he's waiting to take over while the make Narron the fall guy for this year's (meaning 2007) failures. If this management team is already thinking that way, we might as well all just start rooting for the cardinals. dfs


That would be the front office's guy sitting next to you, waiting to take
over, if and when you fall on your ass. But Jerry should know all about
that shouldn't he?


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Old 10-11-2006, 05:22 PM
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Bob Braun wrote:
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"Steve M. Mann" <rockermann@LOOSEITsteve-mann.com> wrote in message news:Hl8Xg.9317$F7.4212@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
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I don't think this has been mentioned yet... http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs....0017/1071/rss08
I like Chambliss, but I think that was a necessary change.


I am particularly concerned about how it will effect Dunn (if he's
still around next year), only because of the positive influence I saw
Chambliss have on him him when Chris got to Cincy. I don't think Adam
puts up his 2004 and 2005 level performances without Chambliss (or at
least someone who would be a settling influence). To compund the
concern, I get the feeling that narron is a problem where Dunn's
hitting approach is concerned. I don't recall the specifics at the
moment, but Jerry was quoted earlier in the season saying something
that sounded very Ray Knight-like about Adam's approach.

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