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Old 12-19-2004, 11:58 AM
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THESE NHL SCABS WON'T HEAL

By Larry Brooks

December 19, 2004 -- FOR the second time since the lockout began on Sept. 16,
an NHL owner has unwittingly revealed his league's agenda. First, it was
Atlanta's Steve Belkin talking out of turn about the plan to use scab players
in 2005-06. Now, it's Boston's Jeremy Jacobs all but confirming the intention
to reopen at some future point with a new cast of players after breaking the
union.
One pig after another at the trough.

In an interview Thursday with the Boston Globe far more transparent than the
militant owner could have intended, Jacobs talked about the executive board of
union players as, "a group of guys, who, if we wait until next year, they
probably won't be the guys who eventually will be playing.

"This is a wasting asset in their case. [When the lockout ends], we'll have a
different group of fans and maybe we'll have a whole different group of
players."

If Jacobs is an expert on anything in hockey, it's on a wasting asset. The
Bruins, once one of the great brand names in all of pro sports and not so very
long ago more popular in New England than the Sawx, Patriots and Celtics, have
not won the Stanley Cup in the 29 years Jacobs has owned the team. Since 1993,
13 of the 15 teams in the East have gone to the conference finals; every team,
that is, except the five-year-old Thrashers and Jacobs' Bruins.

But this is no surprise. Jacobs is the owner who forced Raymond Bourque out of
town. He is the owner who has always prioritized stuffing his pockets above
winning championships. He as much admitted it to the Globe a couple of days
ago.

"When you're in a business that values success based on how you finish in the
standings or have a Stanley Cup, it's not for economic success, and yet we have
to control the economics of this business," said the Buffalo-based, absentee
owner with a net worth estimated by Forbes at close to $1 billion. "If we
continue to just leave it on the basis of the guy who wins the most amount of
games is successful, irrespective of how they financially win or lose, then
that's going to be a different discipline and a different set of
circumstances."

The Bruins have made a profit of close to $45M over the last five years. They
have the eighth-highest revenue in the NHL. None of that is enough for Jacobs,
who is behind the wheel of Gary Bettman's union-busting bus. None of that is
enough for any of these owners, pigs at the trough who will not reopen their
precious league until they have dragged it through the mud, day after day after
day.

*

Let me ask you this. Seriously. Would you ever consider signing a contract with
a company that gave your employer total control of your income for up to 12
years, with no ability of your own to negotiate a raise? Would you ever agree
to a deal that would allow your employer to bar you from earning a living in
your field in North America if you didn't accept his or her offer? Who in his
or her right mind would?

Yet that's the offer on the table from NHL owners. We've got news for them.
This is America, not some banana republic. This is America, where labor has a
choice. This is America, where such a union-busting offer is nothing less than
un-American.

*

You're Ottawa's 21-year-old Jason Spezza and under the NHL proposal your pay's
been cut to $960,500. For the next nine years, you have no way to make a nickel
more than that. You're Jason Spezza, and when you become a free agent in July,
you're going to sign a long-term contract in Europe worth far more than that.
You're Jason Spezza, and you're going to be just one of dozens of the NHL's
brightest young talents to flee the NHL.

Alexander Ovechkin, first overall last year? Evgeni Malkin, second overall?
Fedor Tyutin? Jarkko Immonen, the impressive kid the Rangers got from Toronto
in the Brian Leetch deal? Henrik Lundqvist, the big-time Ranger goaltending
prospect in the Swedish Elite League? Lauri Korpikoski, the highly-regarded
winger the Blueshirts selected 19th overall in June? They're not coming over,
none of them, they're never coming over from Europe to play in the NHL, not
when they're going to be capped, not when they're going to be able to earn far
more money at home than they could make here in Jacobs' NHL.

*

Finally, this just in. Slap Shots has learned that Bettman and O.J. Simpson are
joining forces. Bettman will help Simpson look for the real killer while O.J.
helps the commissioner look for the league source who leaked the memo that
ridiculed the PA 24-Percent Solution.



Wendy





"Everytime I see a Yankee's hat, I see a swastika just a little off kilter."
-- Former Red Sox Player Bill Lee

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Old 12-19-2004, 01:50 PM
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http://www.nypost.com/sports/36729.htm THESE NHL SCABS WON'T HEAL By Larry Brooks * Let me ask you this. Seriously. Would you ever consider signing a contract with a company that gave your employer total control of your income for up to 12 years, with no ability of your own to negotiate a raise? Would you ever agree to a deal that would allow your employer to bar you from earning a living in your field in North America if you didn't accept his or her offer? Who in his or her right mind would?


If I knew that my average income was going to be $1.3 million per, it
wouldn't take me too long to get my name on the contract.

C


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http://www.nypost.com/sports/36729.htm THESE NHL SCABS WON'T HEAL By Larry Brooks * Let me ask you this. Seriously. Would you ever consider signing a contract with a company that gave your employer total control of your income for up to 12 years, with no ability of your own to negotiate a raise? Would you ever agree to a deal that would allow your employer to bar you from earning a living in your field in North America if you didn't accept his or her offer? Who in his or her right mind would?


If I knew that my average income was going to be $1.3 million per, it
wouldn't take me too long to get my name on the contract.

C


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From: "Craig" *clgarret@hotmail.com*Date: 12/19/2004 8:50 AM Eastern"Wrosen3" <wrosen3@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
http://www.nypost.com/sports/36729.htm THESE NHL SCABS WON'T HEAL By Larry Brooks * Let me ask you this. Seriously. Would you ever consider signing a contract with a company that gave your employer total control of your income for up to 12 years, with no ability of your own to negotiate a raise? Would you ever agree to a deal that would allow your employer to bar you from earning a living in your field in North America if you didn't accept his or her offer? Who in his or her right mind would?If I knew that my average income was going to be $1.3 million per, itwouldn't take me too long to get my name on the contract.C


I'm with the players. I hope they start another league and all the juniors
follow them.

Screw the owners.

Wendy






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From: "Craig" *clgarret@hotmail.com*Date: 12/19/2004 8:50 AM Eastern"Wrosen3" <wrosen3@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
http://www.nypost.com/sports/36729.htm THESE NHL SCABS WON'T HEAL By Larry Brooks * Let me ask you this. Seriously. Would you ever consider signing a contract with a company that gave your employer total control of your income for up to 12 years, with no ability of your own to negotiate a raise? Would you ever agree to a deal that would allow your employer to bar you from earning a living in your field in North America if you didn't accept his or her offer? Who in his or her right mind would?If I knew that my average income was going to be $1.3 million per, itwouldn't take me too long to get my name on the contract.C


I'm with the players. I hope they start another league and all the juniors
follow them.

Screw the owners.

Wendy






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Old 12-19-2004, 02:00 PM
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On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:50:28 -0500, "Craig" <*clgarret@hotmail.com*>
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"Wrosen3" <wrosen3@aol.comnojunk> wrote in messagenews:20041219065856.07087.00001970@mb-m10.aol.com...
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http://www.nypost.com/sports/36729.htm THESE NHL SCABS WON'T HEAL By Larry Brooks * Let me ask you this. Seriously. Would you ever consider signing a contract with a company that gave your employer total control of your income for up to 12 years, with no ability of your own to negotiate a raise? Would you ever agree to a deal that would allow your employer to bar you from earning a living in your field in North America if you didn't accept his or her offer? Who in his or her right mind would?
If I knew that my average income was going to be $1.3 million per, itwouldn't take me too long to get my name on the contract.


I love it when these guys try to break it down into "real world"
logic. These aren't "real world contracts". Shit Larry, if I could
sign with a company for a few million a year for 12 years and not
worry about how I perform, I would have signed for 25 years. Where
the heck do I sign?

Tim
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On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 08:50:28 -0500, "Craig" <*clgarret@hotmail.com*>
wrote:
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"Wrosen3" <wrosen3@aol.comnojunk> wrote in messagenews:20041219065856.07087.00001970@mb-m10.aol.com...
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http://www.nypost.com/sports/36729.htm THESE NHL SCABS WON'T HEAL By Larry Brooks * Let me ask you this. Seriously. Would you ever consider signing a contract with a company that gave your employer total control of your income for up to 12 years, with no ability of your own to negotiate a raise? Would you ever agree to a deal that would allow your employer to bar you from earning a living in your field in North America if you didn't accept his or her offer? Who in his or her right mind would?
If I knew that my average income was going to be $1.3 million per, itwouldn't take me too long to get my name on the contract.


I love it when these guys try to break it down into "real world"
logic. These aren't "real world contracts". Shit Larry, if I could
sign with a company for a few million a year for 12 years and not
worry about how I perform, I would have signed for 25 years. Where
the heck do I sign?

Tim
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Old 12-19-2004, 02:40 PM
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Subject: Re: These NHL Scabs Won't HealFrom: "Craig" *clgarret@hotmail.com*Date: 12/19/2004 8:50 AM Eastern"Wrosen3" <wrosen3@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
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http://www.nypost.com/sports/36729.htmTHESE NHL SCABS WON'T HEALBy Larry Brooks*Let me ask you this. Seriously. Would you ever consider signing a contractwitha company that gave your employer total control of your income for up to12years, with no ability of your own to negotiate a raise? Would you everagreeto a deal that would allow your employer to bar you from earning a livinginyour field in North America if you didn't accept his or her offer? Who inhisor her right mind would?If I knew that my average income was going to be $1.3 million per, itwouldn't take me too long to get my name on the contract.C
I'm with the players. I hope they start another league and all the juniors follow them. Screw the owners.


And who exactly is going to put up the money to start this new league?
Screw the union!

Bob
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Subject: Re: These NHL Scabs Won't HealFrom: "Craig" *clgarret@hotmail.com*Date: 12/19/2004 8:50 AM Eastern"Wrosen3" <wrosen3@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
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http://www.nypost.com/sports/36729.htmTHESE NHL SCABS WON'T HEALBy Larry Brooks*Let me ask you this. Seriously. Would you ever consider signing a contractwitha company that gave your employer total control of your income for up to12years, with no ability of your own to negotiate a raise? Would you everagreeto a deal that would allow your employer to bar you from earning a livinginyour field in North America if you didn't accept his or her offer? Who inhisor her right mind would?If I knew that my average income was going to be $1.3 million per, itwouldn't take me too long to get my name on the contract.C
I'm with the players. I hope they start another league and all the juniors follow them. Screw the owners.


And who exactly is going to put up the money to start this new league?
Screw the union!

Bob
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From: Bob Levine robjlevin.nospan@netscape.netDate: 12/19/2004 9:40 AM Eastern Standard TimeMessage-id: <qpgxd.1244$fe5.92@trndny06>Wrosen3 wrote:
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Subject: Re: These NHL Scabs Won't HealFrom: "Craig" *clgarret@hotmail.com*Date: 12/19/2004 8:50 AM Eastern"Wrosen3" <wrosen3@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
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>http://www.nypost.com/sports/36729.htm>>THESE NHL SCABS WON'T HEAL>>By Larry Brooks>*>Let me ask you this. Seriously. Would you ever consider signing a contract
>with>a company that gave your employer total control of your income for up to>12>years, with no ability of your own to negotiate a raise? Would you ever>agree>to a deal that would allow your employer to bar you from earning a living>in>your field in North America if you didn't accept his or her offer? Who in>his>or her right mind would?If I knew that my average income was going to be $1.3 million per, itwouldn't take me too long to get my name on the contract.C I'm with the players. I hope they start another league and all the juniors follow them. Screw the owners.
And who exactly is going to put up the money to start this new league?Screw the union!Bob


I don't know but it's certainly something that can be done.

I'm surprised so many of you are anti-union. I have some issues with unions
myself but in general, my support goes to the workers/players. They're the
commodity.

Wendy






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